I have a lot of respect for Col. Paul Yingling, who I know from Iraq, and whose thinking about today's military has had a lot of influence on me. He actually is the first person quoted in the book I am writing right now, as the manuscript currently stands. So I was pleased to get this from him.

There is lots of memorable stuff in this short essay. I was especially struck by his third sentence: "Mission command takes intelligent and courageous senior officers accountable for battlefield results." I also liked this one: "Great leaders do not rely on favorable conditions; they create them." And this one: "When a small unit gets in trouble, senior commanders find cover in SOPs thick enough to stop an OER bullet." And his bottom line: "Far from prohibiting mission command, the conditions of modern combat demand it."

So it is a real pleasure to recommend this to you. I think it is one of the best columns this blog has ever had:

By Paul Yingling
Best Defense chief correspondent of lost causes

MAJ Niel Smith is a good friend and a superb officer, but he's wrong about mission command. Auftragstaktik doesn't require highly trained junior officers, reforms in personnel management or professional military education, or time to integrate the latest technology. Mission command takes intelligent and courageous senior officers accountable for battlefield results. If we identify and promote such officers, the rest will fall into place. If we don't, the best trained captains in the Army's history won't save us from failure.

There is plenty of historical evidence to contradict MAJ Smith's claim that "mission command requires stable, highly trained staffs and company/troop commanders, proficient in their specialty and job." Scipio's centurions didn't have 3.5 years of brigade staff time to learn their trade before fighting Hannibal. Sherman's cavalry troops were not made audacious by rigorous PME. Guderian's race to the English Channel was not preceded by a year of stability in ARFORGEN. Patton's tank companies were not the product of enlightened personnel policies. These officers succeed because they had the intelligence to see the battlefield clearly, and the courage to act on their convictions. In any war worthy of the name, the delicate conditions MAJ Smith requires to implement mission command have never existed. Great leaders do not rely on favorable conditions; they create them.

Claims that today's wars are somehow more complex than previous conflicts will draw belly laughs from historians. Is sectarian conflict in Iraq somehow more politically complex than Rome's civil wars? Does the rate of technological change in the last ten years in Afghanistan exceed that of the last two years of World War I? Even if we accept the dubious proposition that today's wars are unparalleled in complexity, successful brigade commanders have demonstrated that mission command works. Colonel Sean McFarland helped turn the tide in Anbar Province thanks in large part to the autonomy he granted to Captain Travis Patriquin. Colonel H.R. McMaster's success in Tall Afar was attributable to a command climate in which thinking was required and PowerPoint was not. Have new and unparalleled complexities transformed warfare since 2006?

MAJ Smith's defense of detailed planning doesn't stand up to empirical scrutiny. Thick orders and elaborate SOPs haven't eliminated costly, stupid mistakes. Consider two of the most heavily regulated activities on the modern battlefield  -- air strikes and detainee operations. Air strikes have killed civilians and ground troops have abused detainees, even when the SOPs regulating these activities ran to several hundred pages. Each crime and blunder adds another chapter to the tome, but none of it seems to matter. Leaders prone to crimes and blunders are not dissuaded by elaborate checklists or sternly worded prose.

Yet the production of highly prescriptive orders and SOPs, what Germans call Befehlstaktik, continues unabated; why?  The primary purpose of detailed orders is not battlefield success, but rather the protection of field-grade and flag officer careers. In ten years of war, no Army general has relieved a fellow flag officer for battlefield failure. Why so many failures and so little accountability? When a small unit gets in trouble, senior commanders find cover in SOPs thick enough to stop an OER bullet. (I told the troops not to beat detainees; it's right here on page 11.) Rather than preventing battlefield failure, detailed planning often enables it. Senior officers can survive almost any debacle so long as there's a FRAGO and a captain between them and the problem.

Detailed planning can be useful in understanding problems, anticipating opportunities and risks and synchronizing activities. Prescriptive orders and SOPs have their place in performing routine mechanical tasks. However, these techniques are often counterproductive in the fog and friction of combat. Modern combat requires junior leaders capable of exercising judgment and initiative, and senior officers capable of fostering these qualities. It requires junior leaders capable of acting on commander's intent, and senior officers capable of clearly expressing their intent. It requires junior leaders capable of taking prudent risks, and senior officers willing to underwrite and reward risk-taking. Far from prohibiting mission command, the conditions of modern combat demand it.

Most importantly of all, Auftragstaktik demands accountability for results rather than adherence to procedures. Some will succeed and advance, while others will fail and find employment elsewhere. These outcomes have little to do with time in grade, PME or the complexities of the modern battlefield. Senior officers who wish to exercise mission command shouldn't wait for favorable conditions; they should create them.

Paul L. Yingling is a colonel in the U.S. Army and a professor of security studies at the George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies. The views expressed in this article are those of the author and do not reflect the official policy or position of the George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies, the Department of Defense, the U.S. Government or St. Jude.

history.navy.mil

 

ERIC_STRATTONIII

12:18 PM ET

September 16, 2011

An amazing article chock full of common sense

This is something we often talk about on this blog, it really made me feel good to see a Colonel write this, restored my faith. If we had more 06's like this we would be far ahead of where we are today in both Iraq and Afghanistan. A short, sweet and to the point article like this has a lot of weight when it comes from a serving Colonel, glad to read and it see that there are still a lot of good senior officers left, hope you make Flag.

 

STAFF GUY

12:42 AM ET

September 17, 2011

Ditto

I am glad that we get commentary like this and MAJ Smith's from serving members of the military.

 

JTINSC

12:33 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Yingling...

really has his shit together.

I agree with Otter on the need for more like this.

 

KINSHANE

12:38 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Hmm

This article, while concise and chock full o' goodness, saddens me. I'm 12 years in and I'm thinking such a shift in thinking among senior officers is a generational one, i.e. it will possibly be in place five or six years after I'm retired. Does anyone really think that prescriptive orders, over-reliance on SOPs, and management by PowerPoint(tm) will be phased out in the next crop of GOs? I guess I realized all of this before, but this short chunk of text really made me think how far we have to go.

 

TYRTAIOS

1:03 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Lead, follow, or get out of the way

How can we ever foster in our junior leaders, which by the way includes NCOs, that see or sense an opportunity in the pursuance of their commander's intent, to seize that opportunity rather than to dither, by referring it up to a higher level because they are made uncomfortable by a command climate fosterd by seniors, which Yingling layed out so elequently.

Ya know, there is nothing complex about combat. . .it's just damn hard is all! Since time memorial, no one has ever had a complete picture of what is going on, but I think LtGen Patton summed it up just about right when he said, " "a good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week."

Too many seem to be waiting for next week. . .maybe because by then. . .it will be over, and they will have in hindsight, a more complete picuture of the situation they were uncomfortable with, but now can forget about.

 

SOLDIERSDIARY

1:27 PM ET

September 16, 2011

too much Bavarian Beer

While I agree with some of what the good Colonel wrote, the assertion that SOPs exhist to protect senior officers is a tad off the mark. SOPs and detailed orders (e.g. a good annex D or detainee SOP) can provide the knowledge base for Soldiers who are not familier with said operation. The problem in today's military is that SOPs, orders, FMs, JPs, etc...are worthless unless they are read and understood.
Having some experience with detainee operations, a good detailed SOP was very useful to use to teach Soldiers who were thrown into the mission. The SOP was very useful when NCOs read it, understood it, and tought it to junior Soldiers. When he writes "I told them no to beat detainees, here on page 11." That is off the mark as well, no-one can ever use that as cover, but you take the knowledge in that SOP and teach and instill it into those troops, failing to that is what gets you in trouble, no matter how detailed the SOP or order is.
You have to have that base of knowledge before you can operate in the "Mission Command" environment.
From the top, it goes back to what you learn in ROTC, or PLDC/WLC...the last step in Troop Leading Precedures...anyone, anyone?
When the Colonel Yingling (BTW, anyone notice he is named after a beer, one of the best at that) gets back from the Zugspitz, he is free to offer up more thoughts.

 

RBB

1:51 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Not SOPs -- Policy Letters

When the Army started believing that a bulletin board full of policy letters would curb drunk driving etc., we took the first steps down the road to perdition.

SOPs are different (to a point). They are the playbook that ensures the team is all working in the same system. But they shouldn't dictate play calling -- or audibling when the opportunity presents itself.

BTW -- A LTC SHOULD keep a captain between himself and a problem -- not to insulate himself from the consequences -- but to address the myriad challenges at the lowest level possible. It is more efficient and more effective. Provided the junior leaders are empowered to solve the problems, and supported when things go bad.

War is not more complicated, but I would argue that there has never been a time in history when military leaders were under such daily public scrutiny over their day-to-day actions, and the consequences of military operations.

What is the average number of 15-6 investigations a battalion sized unit conducts (and is subjected to) during a year in Afghanistan or Iraq? 75?100?

This is not all internal military pressure. It is pressure to be responsive to public demands on information -- demands generated by politicians, the media, parents of Soldiers, human rights organizations, opposition groups of various stripes. You name it.

 

RVN SF VET

1:53 PM ET

September 16, 2011

OPERATION ANACONDA

According to the Delta Commander present, the 10th Mountain staff would not alter their plan which was to insert Chinooks into an enemy trap because the division planning cycle would delay the operation a day or two. This was in the face of A1 American observation of dug-in Taliban weapons systems. The two companies and their lift got shot up and pinned down.

That is why MAJ Smith is dead wrong and COL Yingling is right. Rigidity and inflexibility lead to morbidity. In warfare, especially counter-guerrilla warfare, you have to be willing and able to spin on a dime. Late developing intel or unexpected contact requires a prompt, tailored reaction. In Staff College you got points for having the most "be prepareds" in your orders. BUT, your subordinate commanders must be mentally prepared for something really different. Pilots flying CAS can't be totally dependent upon carefully crafted mission orders. They may well be diverted en route to a unit in trouble with different terrain and a different type of human terrain. Similarly, a ground pounder may be going to a meeting in a village, but the commander knows that somewhere on the way in, or at the village, or on the way back - his unit or a portion thereof will be ambushed. His plan is a be prepared.

A Medal of Honor was awarded yesterday to an unexpected leader reacting to an unanticipated situation in an exceptional and amazing manner. Offhand, I'd say that higher could have had a QRF on standby for such situations and a contingency IDF plan, but not a contingency ground maneuver plan. That maneuver plan came from a Marine Corporal's instincts and his upbringing - not a school or OPORD.

There are times when a situation just calls for leadership and violence of action. How else to fight outnumbered and win?

 

ERIC_STRATTONIII

2:10 PM ET

September 16, 2011

SOPs are a baseline

SOPs are a baseline that are made for when you all attempting to sing off the same sheet and are intended for ideal circumstances, rarely do ideal circumstances happen in a fight.

 

TJ LUCIER

2:46 PM ET

September 16, 2011

When Colonel Yingling criticizes Major Smith's........

long winded and misguided diatribe on command and control on the battlefield, Mr. Ricks proclaims him to be he's the next coming of Patton! But when P.F.C. [Proud F**king Civilian] Tom Lucier calls Major Smith's drivel "Long winded and verbose," Mr. Rick flags his comment as being "rude!" I guess RHIP on Mr. Rick's Blog too!

 

RVN SF VET

3:14 PM ET

September 16, 2011

NOT!

COL Yingling disagrees with the substance, the content of MAJ Smith's article, not its length or diction. That's what distinguishes adult criticism from childish ad hominem attacks.

MAJ Smith represents a viewpoint that appears to be prevalent among some officers. I gave the example of the 10th Mountain Division and Operation ANACONDA. Instead of the infamous "analysis paralysis" we have "planning paralysis." This then breeds a desire on the part of the staff that subordinate commanders stick to the plan. I'd say sticking to the mission or commander's intent is different from sticking to a plan. A good plan is valid for the time-frame in which it was written. The moment the troops cross the Line of Departure or mount up in their helicopters, that plan can no longer be viewed as cast in concrete.

 

TJ LUCIER

6:24 AM ET

September 17, 2011

RVN SF VET, there's nothing more "childish" than a bunch of.....

cowards hiding behind goofy monikers because they don't have the balls to attach their real names to the drivel they post on blogs! Major Smith and you have a lot in common: You're both a couple of blowhards!

 

KINSHANE

6:42 AM ET

September 17, 2011

You, sir, are a toolbag. I

You, sir, are a toolbag. I just went back and read your comment to MAJ Smith's post and it is WAAAAY over the line. My name is Shane Corcoran. I am a major in the Army. I just called you a toolbag using my real name and rank/occupation.

(Mr. Ricks, sorry for the ad hominem nature of the preceding, but I think it needed saying. I'm not drunk.)

 

TJ LUCIER

7:31 AM ET

September 17, 2011

Major Cocoran, where you one of those captains........

who were selected for major when the selection rate was hovering around ninety-five percent, which was absurd and showed how desperate the army was and still is? Perhaps that's why you posted such an intemperate comment about me, Thomas J. Lucier, a true patriot and concerned citizen! Here's a novel concept for you and the other nitwits on this blog, who run-off on their computer keyboards: Think first, speak and write later! By the way, Major, I stand firmly behind my comments about Major Smith and his very apparent lack of experience on the battlefield! Are you getting your combat ticket punched too?

 

KINSHANE

7:50 AM ET

September 17, 2011

Your continued use of

Your continued use of exclamation points and frequent self-designation as a 'patriot' has exposed you as a troll, sir. That's the second time this week I've fed the trolls. Well played, sir. Well played.

 

TJ LUCIER

2:49 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Corrected When Colonel Yingling criticizes Major Smith's........

When Colonel Yingling criticizes Major Smith's........

 

GEO FRICK FRACK

2:51 PM ET

September 16, 2011

SOP's and FRAGO's = Pirate Code?

"...you must be a pirate for the pirate's code to apply and you're not. And thirdly, the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules."

 

RVN SF VET

2:52 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Agreed. SOPS

In a conventional infantry unit, a patrol SOP might prescribe a soldier's basic load and patrol order. Of course, the amount of ammo, water, and food you carry is mission dependent - but at least you have a common frame of reference. You could view immediate action drills as SOPs or the procedure for calling-in IDF. You could view an SOP as the minimum you can count on - in some ways.

In SOG (I was not in SOG) there was a detailed SOP which included where vital items were to be carried on your person. In that way, if a man is hit, you know where his field dressing is, his extra ammo, his compass - etc. This is especially useful in units with vehicles. In an ambush, you know where each vehicle's extra ammo is stored or where the recovery tools are. Those are useful SOPs likely to survive contact.

What won't survive contact is an SOP which says, "When you encounter this, you do that." For example, the Malaysian Jungle Warfare School taught that when ambushed, you charge through it. In Special Forces, we practiced breaking contact and not charging through. Why? Well, these tactics were designed for units of different size and armament. So, SOPs aren't necessarily transferable. However, when you have a hang fire with a mortar, as far as I'm concerned, there is only one SOP on how to handle it. Of course, you'd execute a lot faster in combat than on a range and you wouldn't create a safety area. {;*))

I really get the impression that some concepts were arrived at to make staffs mentally comfortable without due regard for field execution.

 

TJ LUCIER

2:55 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Corrected copy: When Colonel Yingling criticizes.......

Major Smith's long winded and misguided diatribe on command and control on the battlefield, Mr. Ricks proclaims him to be the next coming of Patton! But when P.F.C. [Proud F**king Civilian] Tom Lucier calls Major Smith's drivel "Long winded and verbose," Mr. Rick flags his comment as being "rude!" I guess RHIP on Mr. Rick's Blog too!

Mr. Ricks, please fix your blog's antiquated comments feature!

 

TOM RICKS

3:10 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Here's the difference

Yingling's criticisms are thoughtful.
Best,
Tom

 

HRAVENLANDEYE

4:43 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Option #2

You could just not comment.

Even if you had a point worth making, or anything close to being considered constructive criticism, your manner and method of conveyance is totally unworthy of what you lament that this blog is lacking; rational, even-headed debate. Please fix your grammar, omit your profanity, and treat everyone with the respect that you would ask for yourself. I doubt you became a "best-selling author" by behaving so childishly.

 

TJ LUCIER

6:13 PM ET

September 16, 2011

HRAVENLANDEYE, until you have the balls to use your real...

name when posting comments, shut your pie-hole! And stop attacking the messenger when you don't like the message, you disrespectful, intolerant dolt!

 

LESTER_GALULA

6:33 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Mr. Lucier

I'm pretty sure it's that we don't particularly care for the messenger. Also, how many times did you have to try to get your comment right? Clearly the blog's fault, and not your own.

 

AHURAZO

6:45 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Do we have to listen to this claptrap?

I've found the comments section on TBD to be full of insightful thoughts by people much smarter than I am, so I don't contribute much. That being said, this clown is coming intolerably close to ruining what is one of the best places on the web to foster intelligent conversation on issues effecting us. Is there seriously no way to just ban this guy?

 

WHISKEYPAPA

7:37 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Yeah

Tom's blog has produced some frank exchanges, but little of the type Mr. Lucier takes joy in presenting.

Walt

 

TJ LUCIER

6:45 AM ET

September 17, 2011

I like, admire and respect.........

Tom Ricks as both a person and a master wordsmith! And I enjoy the candid writing style he employs in his magnum opuses! Tom's in a select group of "self-employed writers/authors," who are capable of earning a comfortable living doing what they have a real passion for, and truly love! And for that I salute Tom Ricks and doff my cap in homage! I'm going to go on TDY for awhile as I need to focus all of my powers of concentration on writing three books in the next three and a half months. Those of you who subscribe to the WSJ, may see a full feature article about me and the "palatial" Home Office/Broadcast Studio that I built using antique barn timbers and siding. But as Tom can attest, the "media" can be fickle and the best laid plans of reporters and editors can change in an instant!
Tom, best wishes for continued success and may your upcoming magnum opus be a best seller.
Semper Fi,
Tom Lucier
Patriot and concerned citizen

 

TJ LUCIER

6:56 AM ET

September 17, 2011

Why not send out a hit man to........

take me out! That would be permanent and you would be "claptrap-free!" Sir, if you and your merry little band of wimps are so offended by my honest discourse, that you're going to forgo visiting this very august blog, than you are in desperate need of some mental health counseling! And you're obviously not very mentally stable, which makes you an ideal candidate for the AWC!

 

HRAVENLANDEYE

8:22 AM ET

September 17, 2011

Thank you for making my

Thank you for making my point, Thomas. Your spelling has improved, though you could stand to reduce your use of the exclamation point. It makes it seem like you are always yelling. But I know that you are a "one-fingered typist and left-handed too boot" so I am sure it is a gradual learning process. Incidentally, it should be "to boot", not "too boot". Only a small group read TBD, whereas that little grammatical gem is out on Amazon for everyone to see. It may improve your credibility as an author if you went ahead and fixed that. I am just providing friendly, constructive criticism.

 

TJ LUCIER

9:34 AM ET

September 17, 2011

Thanks for the heads up, I didn't realize how much you cared, ..

from recent online your tone and demeanor, I mistook you for a hostile foe, but you're apparently a big fan of mine! Congratulations, whoever you are, you've joined the millions of other fans that I have throughout the English-speaking World!

 

WALKING WOUNDED

3:08 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Ghosts of Guderian, Sherman, and a Roman peace?

While I defer to others on the Col's main point, and applaud his outspoken record, I do urge all to take his mythic narrative with a grain of historical salt.

Guderian's officers had rehearsed mechanized war logistics for years in Alsace, Sudetenland, Austria. They had pause for a full reset after the month long live-fire exercise in Poland, where the Soviets shared in the victorious massacre. The rapid forward deployment of Wehrmacht air and anti-air assets, to defeat the RAF while advancing in column, that strikes me as a rolling staffwork masterpiece. By contrast, the unfocussed development of off-axis lines of advance in Russia bled the Wehrmacht, burned their oil without replacing it, planted the seeds of the first and final German defeats.

Union cavalry divisions (circa 1863) individually took 2 years to assemble and train, before they could surprise the undersupplied Stuart, where rebs were conserving rounds, rations and fodder behind the passes. Stuart's subsequent audacious raid into Maryland/Penn. put his commander at a disadvantage that cost him the high ground. Brig. Custer helped check Stuart on the 3rd day at Gettysburg with practiced dismount defensive tactics, and rapid loading cartridge rifles. Not the kind of reckless charge Custer threatened at Appomattox, or the feckless one he executed at the Greasy Grass.

No need to go to the Romans for efficient COIN leadership. Why not look at Grant's effective (and richly rewarded) use of artillery, in the reduction and 4th of July surrender of besieged Vicksburg? I've yet to hear a white Southerner thank Lincoln, Grant, Sherman or Sheridan for kicking their a__es so mercilessly.

Mythified history stories are good for rallying the cause. They can adapt to support authority or insurrection, confuse liberation and conquest. Try reading the Samson chapter (Judges 13-16) from the viewpoint of the CT/stability ops that our brigade staffs and line officers are likely to be tasked with today.

 

WHISKEYPAPA

3:39 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Me Me Me

"I've yet to hear a white Southerner thank Lincoln, Grant, Sherman or Sheridan for kicking their a__es so mercilessly."

Oh well.

"In 1886 [Henry W.]Grady, thirty-six years old, was invited to address the New England Society of New York, on the 266th anniversary to the landing of the Pilgrims at Plymouth. General Sherman, seated on the platform, was an honored guest, and the band played [I am not making this up] "Marching Through Georgia" before Grady was Introduced.

Pronouncing the death of the Old South, he lauded the New South of Union and freedom and progress. And he offered Lincoln as the vibrant symbol not alone of reconciliation but of American character.

"Lincoln," he said, "comprehended within himself all the strength, and gentleness, all the majesty and grace of the republic." He was indeed, the first American, "the sum of Puritan and Cavalier, in whose ardent nature were fused the virtues of both, and in whose great soul the faults of both were lost."

--From "Lincoln in American Memory" by Merrill D. Peterson P. 46-48

I had a bunch of relatives in the service of the so-called CSA on both sides of my family. My GGFather on my father's side was at Shiloh. He was later captured and spent a year in a POW camp near Chicago. On my mother's side, Captain W.P. Howell, was wounded 4 times, including at Chickamauga where he was shot in the foot on the first day. He was in Deas Brigade, Johnson's Division. He was at the Battle of Atlanta. He missed Franklin, invalided home sick. He was at Bentonville. Two other of my mother's relatives were with Lee's army at the end; they had great 19th century names: Francis Asbury Perry, and James Kuykendall Perry. My middle name is Perry. They deserted, were brought back and sentenced to death, but pardoned for previous meritorious service. My mother got a document from the national archives naming them signed by Lee's Adjutant, Walter Taylor.

We never heard all that Johnny Reb crap around my house growing up. I never heard about the Cause. I did hear about President Lincoln and how wonderful he was. To Hell with the so-called CSA.

Walt

 

TYRTAIOS

4:24 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Blame Lee not Jeb

Now pull on your reins Double W, and hold your horse(s). Had Lee used the cavalry forces still available to him, whether he felt comfortable with them in Stuart’s absence or not, instead of A. P. Hill's Third Corps making a recce into Gettysburg which was infantry instead of cavalry, cavalry could have withdrawn without causing a general engagement but infantry obviously could not.

Perhaps had Lee used cavalry, his original intent on not becoming engaged would have been realized and the Battle of Gettysburg never taken place? If you have a few extra bucks around you might find a book written by Wittenberg and Petruzzi, called "Plenty of Blame to Go Around, which addresses this controversial issue in great detail.

 

WALKING WOUNDED

4:35 AM ET

September 17, 2011

Thx for the pointer re Lee's blind blunder at Gettysburg

Also, note that Col. Yingling's reference was to Sherman's use of cavalry, about which I'm ignorant- beyond the risk the long march South posed, until Nashville could be reinforced, and the battle won at Franklin.

But try this monograph, re the rise of Union cavalry ops, and their role in the defeat of Lee's 1863 offensive. BTW, I've also heard (but never confirmed) that young Patton was tutored & inspired by racist cavalryman Bedford Forest, on long rides together in S. California.

The Cavalry at Gettysburg: A Tactical Study of Mounted Operations during the Civil War's Pivotal Campaign, 9 June-14 July 1863 [Edward G. Longacre]

 

RVN SF VET

3:41 PM ET

September 16, 2011

IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME!

The reason for this difference of views is because we have underemployed staffs! We have divisions that no longer control their brigades and brigades that no longer have 3 or 4 battalions to order around. I know of one brigade commander who was jealous of one of his two deployed battalion commanders because that battalion combat team commander had his own AO with over 1200 troops and civilians under him and his own general officer counterparts in Iraq. The brigade staff had admin functions only.

In Afghanistan, who does the brigade command? Where is the division? Does brigade filter ISAF orders and policies? {Probably.) Do battalions require day to day brigade direction as they would in a conventional war with a front line? (Not.)

The Army's attempt to imitate the Marine Corps has resulted in some significant cultural gaps. The Army doesn't know how to deal with brigades separate and battalions separate - both with the clever acronym: BCT. Perhaps we should be beefing-up battalion staffs and company staffs. Company separate anyone - commanded by a Major?

 

RIFLE COMPANY COMMANDER

5:00 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Initial investment

Both sides of this debate have merit, obviously. I think everyone agrees mission command should be strived for, but many agree that the young officers are not trainined enough to execute properly..

So it comes down to asking how to better prepare them?

IOBC does not prepare young Infantry officers enough. It mainly trains them for Ranger School. Ranger School is a great leadership crucible and great for learning *some* tactics, but it is almost the antithesis of "mission command." (e.g. When I went through it, you would almost be 99% sure of failing a patrol if you wavered from the Ranger way of doing it....regardless of the outcome).

So.... how to train young combat arms officers better? A longer basic course is the first thing that comes to mind, but I'm sure that is just a the tip of the solution. How to train squad leaders better? (I think their NCO education schools are too short, but the Army needs them back in the fight, so its hard for Big Army to justify giving them longer school time, I think)

I don't have the answers, but I know that I was whoefully unprepared to take charge of a platoon in combat when I did. Thank god I had a squared away platoon sergeant and squad leaders and was able to learn on the job fast, but that is far from the ideal situation.

 

TYRTAIOS

5:55 PM ET

September 16, 2011

une question?

I don't know that anyone is completely prepared to enter combat as a platoon leader, but I would hope they were adequately trained tactically and technically, and further wonder if you just weren’t more apprehensive of making a mistake more than anything else?

Incidentally, in the French language, combat is the action of fighting of course, but it can also refer to the idea of a mission. . .as in the efforts done in favor of one's cause. . .you did make an effort for your cause, it sounds like.

 

RIFLE COMPANY COMMANDER

7:07 PM ET

September 16, 2011

true

I just felt that my friends that grew up in the Marine Corps were better overall trained. Especially when it comes to combined arms operations. But that's just me.

 

TJ LUCIER

6:09 PM ET

September 16, 2011

French is a "dead language" and has been for a long time!

I know because I'm part "Frog" and a member of the Franco-Americaine Centre in Manchester, NH! And they can't draw flies to their French language classes.

 

TYRTAIOS

7:27 PM ET

September 16, 2011

I just disengaged in a rather

I just disengaged in a rather articulate conversation concerning the Conspiracy of Catiline with a couple of Hell's Angles, what is your point in the matter of mission tactics or anything else on this blog?

 

WHISKEYPAPA

8:59 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Lord of the Flies

"And they can't draw flies to their French language classes."

I bet you could.

Walt

 

NIEL SMITH

7:26 PM ET

September 16, 2011

Glad to have fostered discussion

All,

Glad my response sparked some thought!

COL Yingling was kind enough to dialogue with me offline about this before it ran. I have the utmost respect for him, and as I told him, we are really in violent agreement on most things.

First, one should not misconstrue what I was saying - I was not arguing for detailed control and mindless execution regardless of situations, more TPS coversheets, or taking initiative from subordinates. I was attempting to add a nuanced counter to those who allege that any controls imposed by higher headquarters are somehow misguided, and that mission command may not apply in all situations.

What I was responding to was not how we COMMAND, but how we plan, and adding that need for staff planning and sync increases and decreases based on numerous factors, which I alluded to in my response. Some of the prior writings were interpreting any planning and restrictions as unconscionable to the subordinate - hogwash. A well synced and wargamed plan allows commanders to see opportunity and respond appropriately within the commander's intent, and not miss opportunities because they are mired in operational details well trained staffs should handle or be prevented from exploiting an opportunity because no one wargamed and saw it coming.

In other words, "planning is essential, plans are useless" was my main argument. The less experienced the subordinate and staffs the more need for detailed planning - not command restriction beyond rhyme or reason. There is a difference.

I am absolutely bewildered how some of you, who have never served with, over, or under me, could draw such conclusions from a note that was articulating some nuance written hastily from the field. I wish I could engage more on this, but current commitments keep me a tad busy.

Best,
MAJ Niel Smith

 

ERIC_STRATTONIII

12:45 PM ET

September 18, 2011

@Maj. Smith

Will all due respect (that means I can say whatever I want right?) the first article you posted implied that you were buying into many of the things we often complain about in the field and on this blog when it comes to the folks back at the JOC/TOC, it may not be what you intended to imply but it came across that way none the less-Risk aversion, paper pushing (bureaucracy) and careerism.
The amount of second guessing and micro-management that goes on from those nice, AC filled JOC tents is amazing and at times when we get a call on the radio with orders to let's say-go re-clear a building that is on fire before we drop on it to make sure no one is in it, even though we just saw you guys clear it and put the PUCs on a helo. Or perhaps the incredible scrutiny that a FIRES mission gets with the folks again in the nice, AC filled JOC tents making the calls more out of fear for what is perceived as career safety and risk aversion than actual concern for the IO campaign and CIVCAS worries. Heck, look at the recent example of Meyer and the lack of support those guys got from the JOC and other units as an example. There are some are the even pushing for restrictions and having to call for permission at the JOC/TOC to use organic IDF assets to a platoon or squad. If you would like I can continue with example after example of problems with what your philosophy seemed to imply and why Col. Yingling's is the one we (the guys in the field) wish was in place. I see it as an Army Cultural problem that I hope will change.

 

DOPE ON A ROPE

9:40 PM ET

September 16, 2011

MAJ Smith and COL Yingling...

I think it isn't productive to go so black and white on either side of this argument. We need SOPs that are well defined and well understood to instill "muscle memory"....and we also need leaders and soldiers that can react and utlize individual judgment.

I don't think this needs to be a binary set of choices. But I do think TJ Lucier a) sounds like the name of a bad cop show, and b) needs to never post here again.

 

TJ LUCIER

7:08 AM ET

September 17, 2011

Dope On A Rope, how apropo you for such a.......................

closed minded simpleton. What's the matter, am I causing you to rethink your career choice? Or is it that you're just not "programmed to receive?" In either case, your nothing but an intolerant ignoramus! P.S. Better to keep your pie-hole shut than to open it and expose your stupidity to the world!

 

WALKING WOUNDED

3:39 AM ET

September 19, 2011

no rose 4 U

what's the procedure for voting someone off this island?

 

FG42

8:09 AM ET

September 17, 2011

Alas, it seems we're stuck now

with not only the guy who posts spam selling running shoes and other junk, but also Mr. Lucier, who seems to have been off his meds for quite a long time. Tom, time to update your blog software, so that we can block non-contributors as well as track current posts more easily.

 

TOM RICKS

9:46 AM ET

September 17, 2011

I recommend ignoring him

Responding just feeds into his energy.

Even if he had something to say, he lacks sufficient civility to be treated as a member of this discussion.

Best,
Tom

 

SOAP MCTAVISH

4:28 PM ET

September 17, 2011

I have a feeling...

This is some sort of performance art piece, a la "Great Satan's Girlfriend," right? I think it's brilliant. In any case, I agree with Tom - try to avoid feeding the trolls, gentlemen.

 

TJ LUCIER

11:45 AM ET

September 17, 2011

The root cause of the downward spiral of the U.S. Military......

In my Constitutionally protected opinion, which in no way advocates overthrowing the current government, the sheer stupidity and incompetence of the general grade officers of the Armed Forces of the United States of America, has long since reached criminal proportions, and as far as I'm concerned, they should all be taken out, lined up against a wall and given their just due! Fact is, for the most part, our conventional ground forces couldn't fight their way out of a piss-soaked paper bag with a razor-sharp machete. Today's military has digressed to the point where it's basically nothing more than one giant, but highly ineffective social welfare organization that's parasitic and slowly sucking the lifeblood out of its host, the American Taxpaying Public. And we are sick and tired of getting zero bang for our tax dollars, while we continually get ripped-off by totally clueless general grade officers, greedy defense contractors and crooked politicians on the take. The U.S. Military, its current form, is completely broken, and nothing more or less than a criminal enterprise, replete with board-certified psychos, conmen, flimflam artists, extortionist and career criminals masquerading a "career" officers and SNCOs, who haven't been on the winning side of a war since August of 1945! Nice going, generals!

 

JPWREL

1:35 PM ET

September 17, 2011

Since I am on the road I

Since I am on the road I missed most of the discussion of Col. Yingling’s most excellent and insightful comments. Tom’s blog has a tendency to concentrate upon land operations, which is to be expected since that is usually our primary operational focus these days. But I will take a look at operations at sea.

One of the clearest examples of effective Auftragstaktik or ‘appreciating the commander’s intent’ was at sea by Adm. Nelson and his original ‘band of brothers’. In fact if I were asked to recommend the best example of Auftragstaktik my first choice would be to use naval rather than land engagements. Something like the Battle of the Nile at its best in execution and Savo Island at its worst.

If one studies both the battles of St. Vincent (1797, Nelson as subordinate) and the battle of annihilation at the Nile (1798, Nelson as commander) one would discover the essence of Col. Yingling’s ‘making ones own luck’ with supporting commanders using their own initiative to further exploit the tactical opportunity at hand.

These two battles like Hawke’s famous victory at Quiberon Bay in 1759 demonstrates even more clearly that most land engagements a numerically inferior force at a positional disadvantage in either gale like conditions or in poor visibility seizing the initiative to seek close action and decisive battle to its ultimate conclusion.

The key element in all these engagements (of which Trafalgar was the crown jewel) was not the evident mechanics of British superiority in gunnery, or seamanship, or signaling but the fact that all the commanders were on the same wave length in appreciating the missions objective and were capable of assuming command had Nelson fell (as he did at the Nile with a head wound) and pursuing his intent as if he were still in command.

Nelson believed that his most junior frigate commander should be mentally prepared to take the entirety of the fleet in hand if the responsibility fell on his shoulders. This was not so different from Guderian’s expectations of his subordinates in May of 1940.

Side note: Just about everyone who regularizes Tom’s site makes important contributions with their knowledge and experience but every now and then a crank materializes out of the atmosphere. I don’t now who TJ LUCIER is or what his problem is but his comments of late sound to me at least disorientated. Perhaps he can locate another venue to get off his chest whatever is bugging him?

 

Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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