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Before becoming a best-selling spy novelist, Alex Berenson was an "A list" reporter. Here, in the first of two installments from a recent embed, he brings the eye of the novelist but the hand of a reporter to the big U.S. base in Kandahar.

By Alex Berenson
Best Defense guest reporter

The word airfield makes war sound romantic. It conjures up a tropical runway where a mustachioed customs agent sits behind a rusted desk, pistol in one hand, cigar in the other. Or a narrow landing strip high in the mountains, where a lonely controller talks down the boys whose planes are too flak-damaged to get back to base. Lighten up on the throttle and raise those flaps, loo-tenant. I'll bring you in.

Then there's the reality of modern war. Then there's Kandahar.

The soldiers and contractors who work at Kandahar Air Field call this giant base KAF, pronounced "calf." As in fatted. Kabul is the nerve center, the brain, for the war in Afghanistan. But KAF is the mouth and the stomach, the communications and supply center for the 70,000 American soldiers and Marines fighting in southern Afghanistan.

Of course, fighting is a relative term. If they wear uniforms, the ladies and gents at KAF are counted in that total, though they're about as likely to be in a firefight as the average Parisian. The kaf-firs are required to wear strips of yellow reflective tape if they walk outside after dark. The rule is a concession to the fact that, despite the occasional rocket attack, they're as likely to die in a traffic accident as from hostile fire. Frontline soldiers refer to the folks at KAF as POGs, pronounced pogues. POG may or may not stand for "people other than grunts." Either way, the phrase isn't a compliment.

I came to KAF on my way to a forward base, a place where actual soldiers actually fight. I planned to patrol with an infantry company from the 101st Airborne Division, a unit near the end of its tour, ask the guys what they'd seen, what they thought of the war. Because of the vagaries of military transport, I found myself stuck in Kandahar for three days. I set out exploring the base's muddy streets, dodging Land Rovers and Toyota 4Runners with USA and CON plates. I trudged past giant lots filled with the tall armored trucks that are the military's preferred transport here because they survive bomb blasts that turn Humvees into four-man ovens. Past double-height stacks of shipping containers, their colors dulled by the sun. Past endless rows of barracks hidden behind concrete blast walls. Past a tin-and-wooden church put up by the Romanians, and a mosque for the soldiers from the United Arab Emirates.

I walked, and walked, and walked some more. The base seemed endless. KAF is roughly three miles wide and two miles long, one-fourth the size of Manhattan. I wondered just how many people lived here. The consensus figure was north of 30,000, though no one really knew. Besides the Marines and Army, the Navy and Air Force had 5,000 people here, the British and Canadians thousands more. The French had offered a detachment of Mirage jets. Belgium, Italy, and a dozen other nations were here too, supporting the war one cappuccino at a time. KBR and Dyncorp and scores of other private companies fielded their own armies: contractors who cleaned the toilets, ran the chow halls, built the gyms, trained the bomb-sniffing dogs, and serviced the phones. The private workers were even more diverse than the soldiers. KAF is a real United Nations, the world coming together to make war. Only one country is missing: Afghanistan itself. Aside from a few guys selling carpets, the locals are generally not welcome.

After some false starts, I finally reached the perimeter. I expected to see Kandahar itself, but the city was invisible. It lies miles north of the airfield, hidden behind a low mountain, a brown fin that overlooks the base. The only Afghans I spotted were farmers grazing goats hundreds of yards away from the razor wire and high-security fence.

For all the contact KAF has with its host nation, it might as well stand on a 1,000-foot cliff. It might as well be the Death Star, spinning through space, launching TIE fighters against planets that the people inside its walls will never see. Its primary export to the country outside its edges is shit. Literally. The inhabitants of KAF generate tons of waste every day, and all that feces has to go somewhere. After being partly treated in the "poo pond," a lagoon on the western side of the airfield, it is piped into the nearby fields.

The big source of entertainment at KAF is the Boardwalk. The Boardwalk is, yes, a boardwalk, a covered wooden walkway the size of a city block. It surrounds a basketball court and hockey rink, with restaurants and shops to the outside. There's a TGI Friday's, a Nathan's, a KFC, an ice-cream stand, pizza by the slice and pie-everything a homesick POG could want. The stores sell phones and computers and jackets with "Operation Enduring Freedom" logos and maps of Afghanistan. The folks at Kandahar love proving that they've served in a war zone. The guys on the front lines, not so much.

The Boardwalk is always crowded. So are the mess halls, which the military now calls DFACs. Nothing moves too fast, and no one minds. Kandahar is a little like college. Everybody talks about how hard they're working, but everyone seems to have plenty of time-aside from the contract workers who cook and clean.

The folks I met at KAF were pleasant enough. Still, three days there was about two-and-a-half too many. I felt my cynicism approaching catch-22 levels. At KAF the war seemed like nothing so much as a giant and profitable machine paid for by the Chinese and greased with just enough American, British, and Canadian blood to keep it running. But not so much that the folks back home wake up and notice. I began to feel that, if the Taliban didn't exist, the contractors would have to make them up to keep the dollars coming. Not exactly the attitude I wanted to have when I was about to put my fingers and toes on the line for a foot patrol.

So I was more than happy to board a helicopter-run by a private company, of course-for the 20-minute ride to Forward Operating Base Wilson, the home of Task Force Strike.

In February 2011, novelist and former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson embedded with the 1st Battalion, 502nd Regiment, of the Army's 101st Airborne Division. He spent much of his time with Alpha Company, nicknamed the "Hard Rocks," at Combat Outpost Senjaray in Afghanistan's Kandahar province. This is an excerpt from Lost in Kandahar, his reflections on the embed, which is available from Amazon as a Kindle Single.

Alex Berenson

 

STARBUCK

4:11 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Having served on a mega-FOB,

Having served on a mega-FOB, I can say that the most haunting thing is that you wouldn't know you were in Iraq (or Afghanistan). Many soldiers might go an entire year-long tour without interacting with an Iraqi, and some even got weekends off.

At FOB Speicher, there was no city within sight (Tikrit was miles away), and you always got the sense that you're walking through a construction zone. (The Army loves to "landscape" with T-walls, gravel, and concrete.)

The net result is that people thought they were in a miniature America--AFN pumped in enough American television to drown out the war news. I felt more detached from the Iraq War on FOB Speicher than I did in the United States.

In part, that's what prompted much of my milblogging: it was a way to connect and get involved in what was going on in Iraq.

 

STAFF GUY

5:05 PM ET

April 12, 2011

I love

the small of cynicism in the morning (ok, evening now), smells like....well, apparently a Nathan's hotdog.

Having spent only a hour or two on KAF I still agree with about everything written here.

 

TYRTAIOS

5:07 PM ET

April 12, 2011

General Sun Tzu is correct

Once again, the old General Sun Tzu is correct when he said, "It is only one who is thoroughly acquainted with the evils of war that can thoroughly understand the profitable way of carrying it on."

Obviously someone is doing a remarkable job of profiting from our way of carrying on war, in a country we have little in common with. Alas, it ain't me, the U.S. tax payer.

Nor do I suspect, with the lethargy that such a described set-up breeds, does the trigger puller a bit further down range get the best support he could from a base set-up like this.

 

JPWREL

5:49 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Nice for some

Well, I wish some of that Kandahar fine food and good times were available to my kid with his SEAL platoon newly arrived up in Qeysar, Af-stan. The food stinks even worse than the weather. And while they are all superb physical condition the altitude takes awhile to adjust to. I looked up Qeysar on Google Earth and it look like southern Arizona without the strip malls.

 

PONG

6:15 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Not everyone is a "trigger-puller"

The cynicism of this article thinly veils a sophist's view of war's machinations.

Mr. Berenson accurately captures a snapshot of operations at Kandahar Air Field. However, his treatment is topical at best and subversive at worst. Most of the 30,000 personnel working at KAF are directly supporting the war efforts of those men and women serving in the remote forward operating bases (FOBs) and outposts. They accept derogatory terms like POG and REMF because no one stands up for them (certainly not Mr. Berenson). I am certain that more than one or two wishes they were in the combat arms branches of their service; where they can see the contributions they are making to the effort every day. Alas, not everyone can be a "trigger-puller."

The environment that has grown at KAF indicates the success of allied efforts to secure the base. Ten years ago, my wife was in Kandahar and they were being mortared by the Taliban daily, burning their feces in barrels, and no one was asking for Nathan's hot dog.

I can appreciate the romantic view of a combat airfield Mr. Berenson introduces at the beginning of this piece. However, this war, our generation's war is not an island-hopping campaign in the South Pacific, and we wouldn't fight a war like that again unless we had to.

The next time you go to KAF, try visiting the troops in their workplaces. Ask them what they do and how they contribute to the effort. Ask them if they miss their families. AND, ask them what they think of the boys and girls who are serving outside the relative security of KAF. They know their mission is to support those soldiers in the 1BN/502Rgt of the 101st ABN.

 

TYRTAIOS

7:22 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Pong, Berenson may be a bit

Pong, Berenson may be a bit unfair in his attempt to distinguish the trigger puller from those in the rear, which was probably selfishly done to set a been-to-hell-and-back tone for his actual assignment up front with Willie and Joe.

However, stating that setting-up nonessential luxuries is a way of measuring success with security is rather skewed for a variety of reasons, to saying nothing of the fact that just making physical space for these extrinsic services gives the appearance that we are a force of occupation, and is further a poor way to achieve economy in management toward efficiency in my estimation.

One other thought: why aren’t Afgans welcome aboard? It seems we could pair locals as apprentices alongside the various numerous contractors, after all, we are there to nation build aren't we?

 

ERIC_STRATTONIII

8:21 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Actually, no, it is a kinder word than I would use

I see far to many who are on those FOBs cry about the "horrors" they have seen while never having left them. I see that those same people who live on those FOBs think it is akin to being in combat and you will hear them talk of their "tours" in country. I would not mind it so much if they would at least not be so bloody stupid while on those bases and place speed bumps at every spot, have speed traps, ensure everyone has a bloody reflector belt on, make sure everyone has a weapon on them but you cannot carry them loaded, make sure that salutes are rendered, make it hard for the actual trigger pullers to get what is needed-ammo, food, bottled water, etc...etc...etc...
As fo the "not everyone can be trigger pullers", that is nonsense, it is just that not everyone is trained to be a trigger puller and none I met on those FOBs wish they had gone into the combat arms. They should get rid of the Air Force, call is the Army Air Corps and have every one of them and everyone in the Army trained as an infantryman first. The Marines can do it so I am sure the Army could too.

 

HALF COCKED

9:33 PM ET

April 12, 2011

War's Suck Level Depends On Your Perspective

This reads like someone who has deployed to a war without ever seeing one. Thanks for your service, but it don't compare to the kid fighting for his and his buddies' lives.

 

PONG

9:49 PM ET

April 12, 2011

What do you think is skewed

What do you think is skewed about the observation that a base capable of sustaining a large contractor presence, to include some luxuries, is indicative of a secure environment?

The criticism concerning Afghan participation in base activities might be fair. I have not been to KAF in years. I am aware that during the Vietnam War the presence of the Exchange was interpreted by some to indicate American opulence. Whether that is the case today I do not know. But, I would not bash anyone who is serving with honor in Afghanistan just because they are not "outside-the-wire."

 

ERIC_STRATTONIII

9:59 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Pong

The guys do a good job for the most part but those bases and the systems for support are run like a base back in the States and there is no sense of urgency by the FOB Hobbits who live on them because they do not go outside the wire and are not trained (for the most part) as a combatant. KAF is not even the worst, Bagram makes KAR look like they are in the mindset. I saw more man hours spent on silliness and avoiding getting things done than I did making support of the troops outside the wire a priority. Even some of the direct support groups were in a State side mentality-I remember Army MEDEVACs telling me that they would not go in to a hot LZ, they would not fly without a gunship in support and this was in KAF, JBAD and BAF. The Air Force was actually better than the Army in a lot of respects for CASEVAC. The emphasis on reflector belts, "Days of Safety", speed traps, if you have a weapon with you it has to be unloaded (I can't make that crap up!) and more silliness than that makes me look at the folks on those bases as being to far removed from understanding that they were in a war zone.
I respect anyone who serves and appreciate that they are removed from their homes, friends and family but being on those bases at times and the micro-mangement that you are under makes me think that the people running those places and the people working on those places are without a clue more often than not.

 

PONG

10:09 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Half-Cocked

When you walk through an airport and see a reunion between a soldier and his or her family do you wonder first if they were "outside the wire" or are you just thankful they volunteered to serve? Before you thank a soldier for their service do you ask them what they do and then offer a greater measure of gratitude to those who are in the combat arms?

Just some thoughts, I do not care to sling mud or try to guess who has or has not been in combat by their posts. My real problem with Mr. Berenson's article was the tone appears to be one of slight disdain for those servicemembers at KAF. If there was a deeper meaning to his article then he could leave out the veiled inference that those "inside the wire" do not serve a meaningful purpose.

BTW, you are welcome.

 

PONG

10:11 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Half-Cocked

When you walk through an airport and see a reunion between a soldier and his or her family do you wonder first if they were "outside the wire" or are you just thankful they volunteered to serve? Before you thank a soldier for their service do you ask them what they do and then offer a greater measure of gratitude to those who are in the combat arms?

Just some thoughts, I do not care to sling mud or try to guess who has or has not been in combat by their posts. My real problem with Mr. Berenson's article was the tone appears to be one of slight disdain for those servicemembers at KAF. If there was a deeper meaning to his article then he could leave out the veiled inference that those "inside the wire" do not serve a meaningful purpose.

BTW, you are welcome.

 

PONG

10:20 PM ET

April 12, 2011

EricStrattonIII

Eric,

Valid points. There are some slugs, but Berenson didn't couch this in terms of bullets and beans not making it to the warfighter. He made a value judgment on the quality of personnel there based on the facilities. He did not offer a single example of anything good going on at KAF (there had to be some maintainer turning a wrench).

The criticism of Army MEDEVAC may be valid. However, Air Force CSAR has picked up the CASEVAC mission in most hot LZs because their HH-60s are armed with 50s and mini-guns. They are also outfitted with equipment which allows them to navigate in the Afghani mountains at night in low illumination conditions. Those guys are OUTSTANDING!

 

TYRTAIOS

11:52 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Tache d'huile at Kandahar

Pong, let me say that several of the contractors aboard the base have a less than stellar reputations and perhaps the Taliban benefit from a black market created and leave the base alone purposely. . .or one of Karzai's cronies benefits and pays off the Taliban.

For the sake of argument, I'll concede we may have secured, held, and now have built. . .built a big base that exceeds what is necessary for prosecuting a war economically, probably because so much is now done by contractors that must have their creature comforts to be attracted to sign-up.

So, if those creature comforts are going to be on site anyway, one based there in uniform might as well partake in a taste of Americana. Maybe we’ll see the oil spot theory tested and the base will continue to grow, and Afghans in rural areas will adopt living closer in as we ever widen the perimeter of the base out.

I apologize for being sarcastic, I'm just an expeditionary minded inividual that digs in against mission creep, my beef has primarily never been with "most" serving in uniform and hey - thanks for serving!

 

OMPHALOS

10:18 AM ET

April 13, 2011

Salsa, anyone?

Good thing Berenson wasn't around for Friday night Salsa dancing on the boardwalk. Maybe that's coming in "Part II."

Thankfully, KAF is a no-salute base, unlike Bagram. Walk down BAF's Disney BLVD during lunch hour for a truly laughable spectacle. The only salutes rendered at KAF are the ceremonial kind, as the casket of a fallen comrade is loaded on a C-17 during a repatriation ceremony. The KAF airfield sees a decent number of those.

And while I agree with much that's said in the original post, I'm not sure I'd liken KAF to a college campus. Since Christmas night, KAF has been rocketed about 20-30 times. Three people on base have been killed and about eighteen have been wounded due to those attacks; one of those killed includes an EOD troop who was eating dinner at a chow hall (coincidentally, a chow hall named after a 10th Mountain soldier killed in Afghanistan in June 06 who was posthumously awarded the MoH).

No, not "there-I-was-just-me-and-my-boot-scabbard," solder-of-fortune stuff on KAF, but certainly not gender studies and queer theory, either.

 

NOTBRO

6:35 PM ET

April 12, 2011

It's true but...

these kinds of comments really should be coming from someone that is qualified to make them. Honestly, does an embedded reporter have the credentials to step up and talk smack about service members serving in a war zone? While Mr. Berenson's willingness to embed with First Strike is commendable, as were his previous stints with units in Iraq, he isn't actually SERVING there. The E-4 commo specialist who is assigned to a higher echelon staff isn't there by choice, and in all likelihood his dream may be to join a frontline BN where the action is.

Until Mr. Berenson is willing to pick up a rifle and actually put his "fingers and toes on the line for a foot patrol" he should keep his criticism of FOBBITS limited to the contractors that we all hate, and away from the service members.

 

JPWREL

7:00 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Oh bunk. The idea that one

Oh bunk. The idea that one has to be ‘serving’ there to make comments and observations is screwy. Berenson is making comments based upon his long experience of being as Tom says an A-list journalist and likely has a better grip on things than a good many of the troops.

If people only wanted an approved and scrubbed version of things all one has to do is read the Military Times or Stars and Stripes or watch the Pentagon Channel. Merely because one doesn’t accept his version doesn’t mean he is wrong or lacks credibility. The days of Ernie Pyle are long gone, Vietnam saw to that. Cheerleading the military is not the job of the journalist.

These massive base infrastructures were also seen in Vietnam and didn’t add one bit to a successful conclusion of the war. KFC’s, McDonald’s and all the rest of claptrap may in fact be counter–productive in the long run. A good analysis of the ridiculous character of American military rear echelons is in Adrian Lewis’s fine book ‘The American Way of War’. It is worth a read.

 

PONG

7:19 PM ET

April 12, 2011

A-List does not equal whole truth

JPWREL:

I agree that carrying a rifle is not a requirement for reporting on the war. That is written in the Constitution which every servicemember and member of congress swears to support and defend. However, a more responsible way of reporting on the conditions at KAF would have included using some of those 3 days to interview the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and maybe even a few contractors that are over there. If they reflect a poor attitude or are unable to communicate how they fit into the bigger picture, then fine, report that.

However, it would be nice for someone to acknowledge the efforts of the men and women that keep the kids on the frontlines paid and make sure they get a quick flight home when there is a family emergency. Instead, they quietly do their jobs, knowing that all though they are away from home for 12-15 months, their experience is not comparable to those outside the wire.

 

NOTBRO

8:42 PM ET

April 12, 2011

I don't doubt the accuracy

I'm just commenting on the validity. It's common knowledge that these FOBs, due to our logistical systems, the penchant for AAFES to try and milk as much money from soldiers as possible, and the introduction of contractors into the mix, creates a parallel universe of idiocy. However, it's different when someone from inside the family says these things than when a simple tourist comes in and calls the whole thing stupid.

 

STARBUCK

6:45 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Still...

This sort of criticism will always exist. How much worse was the disparity in living conditions between the men in the trenches and in the headquarters during the First World War? Movies like Gallipoli and TV series (Young Indiana Jones Chronicles) frequently feature a courier as the main character, in order to have him shuffle between the decision-makers in the plush headquarters and those in squalid foxholes.

 

RAS

7:18 PM ET

April 12, 2011

I had some of those same

I had some of those same thoughts when I was at KAF. I had those thoughts when I was walking to or from the 4-5 hours of sleep I got per night, every night, for my entire tour, so those thoughts neither popped up very often nor lasted very long. The rest of the time I was doing my work as a staff officer, so those thoughts never came up during the day. In fact, the only time I got a decent amount of sleep during my tour at KAF was when I was at a FOB on battlefield circulation and overnighted waiting for transportation.

I've been based at FOBs, I've been based at KAF and similar bases, and I've been back in the U.S. While at a FOB, I've never wished that the guys at KAF or wherever had the lousy chow I did. (Actually, the chow at KAF was by far the worst I've experienced anywhere in 24 years of service.) While at KAF, I never wished that all the guys back at CENTCOM worked the crushing hours I did. There are plenty of pogues (the spelling I learned years ago) at KAF, but there is a fair amount of dead weight in any good sized unit no matter where they're based, whether a FOB or Ft. Hood. Anyone who reacts like this just hasn't been around the block many times.

 

BELTWAYCYNIC

7:24 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Tooth-to-Tail Ratio

Reminds me of a sort of applicable quote:

"Amateurs talk about tactics, but professionals study logistics." - Gen. Robert H. Barrow

This guy is obviously an amateur. The bottom line is that war isn't just a bunch of guys in trenches pulling the trigger. There is a huge logistical component, especially within the American military. And by logistics, I mean everything that is not warfighting. Now, I think a better issue is to look at whether or not that logistical arm is too big, or what people call the "tooth-to-tail" ratio. Its probably too big in some places. Is Pizza Hut really a priority? Maybe, maybe not, there are a lot of arguments both ways.

 

SOAP MCTAVISH

9:32 PM ET

April 12, 2011

tooth-to-tail ratio

it's even worse in a combined arms BN. my BN took an entire conex to the field for the BN HQ...air conditioned tents, proxima, the whole nine.

people worry about the mech world losing core competencies in terms of precision gunnery - i worry we lose an entirely different set of competencies when we have air conditioned tents. at the time, however, i was not about to complain.

 

OTHERSIDEOFTHECOIN

7:26 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Trash

Really, Alex? When I was there, oh a few weeks ago, they called them "Fobbits". Pogues? Seriously, Alex? The Saigon Bureau called, they want their slang back...

The condescension in this piece is unbelievable, and gives a pretty good example why most people outside of Manhattan and DC can't stand people like this (journalists, to be exact).

Has he been snoozing the last eight years? I've read versions of this story countless times, just swap out KAF for Camp Victory or the Green Zone. I don't think an EX NYT writer should get on his high horse about being in the 'real' s#!t - as others have pointed out there are thousands of people at that base who are engaged in combat daily.

But all he can talk about are reflecting belts and TGI Fridays. Some of those people are in country a little longer than three weeks and actually enjoy getting a Nathan's hot dog. You're not wrong, yes its a big monument to consumerism and Americana blah blah blah. You're also an a$$hole.

This reminds me of a fellow named Eric Slater who used to work for the LA Times - until he got caught fully fabricating stories about (no joke) college fraternities. Jack Shafer had a decent write up about it a few years back...

http://www.slate.com/id/2116013/

When caught, he got a fit of self righteousness, and talked about how he had filed stories on top of Afghan mountaintops with tracers flying over his head.

And all this and no mention of the Timmy Ho's, either. Of course, that's not on the boardwalk. Maybe he didn't walk that far. Or nobody told him.

 

ERIC_STRATTONIII

8:32 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Look, the guys do a good job

The guys do a good job for the most part but lets not act life on KAF is all that hard in comparison to the guys outside the wire. The guy writing the article has a point but it should be taken in context, ie; that while the guys on KAF have a pretty good life they are still away from their families and still serving their country and there are only a few FOBs like KAF, most are isolated and with little in common with KAF as far as perks. My big complaint with the ones on those types of FOBs is that the priority of the people who run the camp becomes the same as someone who is back in the States running a normal garrison and they seem to forget there is a war on. My other post is not even close to some of the silliness I saw given priority on those bases. My other complaint is that we could indeed have all troops trained to a certain degree with a reorg of the Air Force and Army Support Troops, ie; training them as Infantryman first. I would also point out that many on those bases do indeed lever the wire and just come back after the mission is done and use those FOBs as home port so to speak.

 

ANDREWH3285

8:36 PM ET

April 12, 2011

"Not everyone is a "tigger puller" is dead on

It seems like Berenson has a pretty limited understanding of how the military actually operates.

For every infantryman or cav scout out on patrol their are dozens of others working to support them from the FOB.

There are soldiers working in supply yards that keep that soldier fed and well stocked with ammo. There are intel analysts pouring through reports trying to understand the enemy and to give targets for that "trigger puller" to go after. Their are commo guys making sure that the infantryman can send emails to his family when not outside the wire. This is just to name a few.

I understand the seemingly absurd existence of American fast food joints in the middle of Afghanistan but that doesn't somehow negate the value of the contributions of the soldiers/marines/airmen stationed on these bases.

Berenson has a few particularly condescending comments. Because there is a gift shop with KAF T-Shirts and mugs that must make this statement true: "The folks at Kandahar love proving that they've served in a war zone. The guys on the front lines, not so much." Because the "board-walk" is full that must mean everyone has plenty of free time and an easy life. This is the worst kind of anecdotal nonsense.

There are thousands of these "POGs" working at KAF and other FOBs in Iraq and Afghanistan that work 12-15 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 12 months or more. For them and their families this is a very real sacrifice.

Granted they do not face death on a daily basis, and as such, they ask for little in the way of recognition and quietly accept the POG label. But a little more investigation on Berenson's part would have exposed the superficiality of many of his statements.

 

KILGORE_NOBIZ

10:38 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Not really fair

Mr. Berenson's few days in KAF sounded and awful lot like the week I spent there waiting for the weather to clear so a C-130 could get in and out, although the Nathan's and KFC are new. And yes, it was a surreal experience for me as well, although I was normally stuck in Kabul eating even worse food (if you can imagine that). All that said, I find it extremely unfair to denegrate the personnel stationed there. Imaging spending a year away from your family, working 16 hour days, 7 days a week, under pressure your ordinary civilian can't even guess at, knowing that if you don't do your job properly the ripples out in the field could be catastrophic. No, other than the occasional IDF after dinner time or the group of 5-6 suicide bombers willing to run into HESCO barriers every now and then the folks at KAF aren't getting shot at like guys in the field. And no, it's not like they had some means of divine intervention that placed them in such a better circumstances. They are their doing their duty, under tremendous stress, sacrificing large chunks of their lives and time with their families. Please, let's refrain from the stories denegrating their service.

 

WILLIEJOE

11:00 PM ET

April 12, 2011

Flip it Over

Okay-lets look at the civilian side- when the folk in Manhatten turn on the tap, take a shower or have an iced drink after a hard day at NYSE or NYT do they ever think about the sand hogs 200 hundred feet down risking their necks to complete the third water tunnel into NYC or West Virginia coal miners clawing coal out of the ground to power the electric grid-how about the cleaners or maintaince trades that keep their buildings operating and clean.
Of course not! What you see at Kandahar is a direct extention of america- if
you'll pardon my cyncism- I don't think they care about the troops (combat and support) any more than they care about americas' workers- zero!

 

GALE

11:56 PM ET

April 12, 2011

POGs vs Grunts. A Star Wars

POGs vs Grunts. A Star Wars allusion. A Catch-22 reference. All that's missing is a freeze-dried, self-loathing "stupid Americans just don't understand other cultures" cliche. If this is A-list reporting, I'd hate to see the B list.

 

NOTBRO

1:50 AM ET

April 13, 2011

Hate to pile on

Isn't it ironic that the reporter who mocks those at KAF who "love proving that they've served in a war zone" is also so blatant about how he is heading to the front lines with the "real" troops?

 

FG42

2:08 AM ET

April 13, 2011

Wow, Berensen's article seems

Wow, Berensen's article seems to have struck a nerve, judging by all the outrage and defensiveness coming from (I surmise) the support troops. I've never been to Afghanistan (old and retired now), and I found his writing and observations just brilliant. This is one time where I found myself totally in agreement with Eric III. The picture Berensen describes reminds me so much of the huge rear-area support bases in Vietnam, where the emphasis seemed to be as much on creature comforts as on providing support to the fighters. This is the "American Way of War," and it will always provoke this gap between the REMF's (some of whom now are claiming PTSD) and the Grunts downrange -- the cries of hurt feelings in these posts attests to that.

 

PONG

3:01 AM ET

April 13, 2011

Some of whom now are claiming PTSD

FG42,

Thank you for your service.

Unless you are a psychologist, who has examined a representative portion of the soldiers returning from Afghanistan and Iraq, you are not qualified to infer anything regarding PTSD. I hope our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines do not read the comments of someone in the old guard looking upon their service with cynicism.

I don't see a whole lot of hurt feelings in these posts. In fact, I haven't read a single support troop coming out and telling us that they deserve to be respected. No, they normally don't because they will get chewed up by the meat eaters. Instead, they serve silently and with very little thanks.

Again, thank you for your service.

 

ERIC_STRATTONIII

3:50 AM ET

April 13, 2011

FG42

It hurts that you would say that this is one time you find yourself in total agreement with me!!! ;) I thought we had something with the whole Vietnam and time thing, actually think you made a good point, sigh....I am hurt ;)
On a serious note, the theme in Afghanistan is much the same as it ever was, welcome to the new boss, same as the old boss. Only big difference is that we JUST started pushing an actual strategic vision the last few years vice finally getting to A vision towards the end of the Vietnam Conflict.

 

RRWESTY

2:40 AM ET

April 13, 2011

I agree with RAS. I spent a

I agree with RAS. I spent a year in the IZ and other than the occasional rocket or mortar attack I was never in serious danger. I've never made any claims about the horrors of war but I did work 100 hours a week for a year straight, and miss out on a year of the lives of my children. But I am proud of my service to my country and the work that my team did. And I did everything I could to support the troops going outside the wire.

 

PONG

3:03 AM ET

April 13, 2011

 

ERIC HAMMEL

3:09 AM ET

April 13, 2011

All This and Lean Times Too

So as our b brave budget hawks blunder forward in parallel with our profound observations here about FOB life and tooth to tail, does anyone acknowledge that maybe =not= flying a Nathan's or TGI Friday's 9,000 miles from CONUS would save the job of ten or twenty or fifty social workers capable of explaining fundamental family finance to the mind-blown teen wife and mother of two children of a twenty-year-old corporal manning a machine gun in some tiny outpost on the far side of hell, dead between nowhere to go and nothing to do?

 

STEVE_M

6:22 AM ET

April 13, 2011

Accurate portrayal, wrong story

I spent half of last year mainly at KAF during my first deployment. I can agree with many points of this article, except for your main point. Why spend your 2 day delay walking the dusty roads of KAF to paint a humdrum picture of what a secure, strategic base is all about? Your comparison of KAF to FOB combat frequency is akin to visiting the Dept of Homeland Security's HQ and expecting to see terrorists within binocular range.

A better idea would have been visiting the Role 3 hospital to speak to front line troops you're so eager to meet (maybe you did but didn't publish it). You likely would have heard some amazing stories. I met an Army man who had lost his leg just 12 hours before, was awake during the whole ordeal (minus his OR anesthesia time), and had an amazing optimism. He was going to make it home for the birth of his child. KAF Role 3 is a likely MEDEVAC destination for FOB Wilson casualties as it's the closest major facility IIRC.

There are also convoys and patrols that originate in KAF. You know this as you walked by their MRAPs in your article.

The real stories are out there and I'm sure you'll find some with the 101st. Safe travels.

 

TIERCE

7:45 AM ET

April 13, 2011

my experiences from BAF

I'm a PL currently at Bagram, and I can honestly say that it's at least as bad there, if not worse. I've come to believe that the real parasites are the staff more than the contractors. At least the contractors (mostly) do something, like fix my M-ATVs faster than our maintenance unit. Most of the staff seems to exist just to add additional levels of approval, BS, and say "you can't do this"; if we could take 50% of O-3 to O-6 and make them E-3 to E-6 and put them in line units, we would have a much better chance of success.

The other thing that I would mention, and I don't know if this is the case on KAF, but here on Bagram my Squadron was supposed to be doing a real COIN mission, living on COPs with the people, but instead we've all been pulled back to defend BAF, all because the base takes less rockets in several months than I did in a day in Iraq. If it wasn't for the knowledge that we would have to surge to doing more than 24 hours ops per day for the next week, some of us would probably cheer when rockets hit the base. BLUF, there are definitely people on KAF, or any big base, who hate hit more than you do.

 

ERIC_STRATTONIII

12:41 PM ET

April 13, 2011

TIERCE

Great points about Staff, they advance in Tech has only caused more centralization and dicouraged initiative due to the silly layers of approval you have to go through. It is an earlier point from another post but they need to cut about 50% of the Officers out of the Military, maybe put them in the reserves but they need to go, 1-5 ratio is silly, it is even like that in SOF units, the only exception is the Marine Corps. The combination of the "eyes in the sky" (UAVs) and other Blue Force Trackers along with the layers of approval only slow down the guys in the field. I remember an op being sent back down to have the CONOP re-done due to the lines on the PPT not being straight!! The reason given after I protested it was that it was being briefed to a G1!!! I just shook my head and told the O3 "Battle Captain" that it was a stupid call but far to common.

 

RVN SF VET

1:00 PM ET

April 13, 2011

EVEN PEACETIME CONUS SERVICE TAKES ITS TOLL

Service members are told to do things that civilians never encounter. Over one's career, there is a physical toll that most civilian jobs do not impose. If REMF jobs were so easy, why do we pay civilian intelligence analysts $125,000 per year to work on Bagram and never leave the perimeter (the woman is brilliant.) We pay contractor pilots $250,000 to fly milk runs. Perhaps working there isn't highly desirable - ya think?

Every visit to the VA hospital in Durham introduces me to another fellow veteran with a peacetime injury or a rear area mishap in a combat zone that he/she will live with for the remaining years of their lives. Every SEAL I meet has arthritis from repeated cold water exposure. Many former Airborne troopers have lower back or cervical spine damage that was not documented in their medical files while on AD. Maybe the straight clerks and yeomen don't have a reason to come to the hospital, but the guys that do have not necessarily taken a round.

BTW, many of the young returnees have a great deal of anger that they carry and they are not approachable, They also regard therapy groups as to slow-paced and walk out. This is distinguishing behavior because all other veterans I have observed share a common bond and exchange stories between Korean War Veterans and Vietnam veterans with warmth and understanding. I sat next to a very fit WWII Army veteran who was now experiencing pain from the 6 German machine gun bullets left in by the surgeons of that time because they were too close to his spine. He had received a 10% disability upon his discharge in 1944.

There are tons of folks at home who would not accept even bad food alone for a year unless they were in prison. I think that the amenities are there to distract the troops from the tedium. The folks in FOBs and COPs have adequate distractions to avoid tedium. However, as a distant observer, I believe that their living conditions are inexcusable. We need combat engineers to go in and create an environment where these folks can get a hot shower and a daily hot meal. These are bases and we owe them. In Korea and Vietnam we went to great lengths to get hot food forward. My sergeants made a still to heat water for showers. I realize there are mobility issues, but then lets add helicopters instead of KFCs. What ever happened to no excuses?

So, I'm glad this topic came up and I think the author paints excellent word pictures. If he saw the medical facilities, I regret that he didn't choose to describe them. Military aviation often imposes delays and it's up to the passenger to use the slack time well.

 

FG42

1:41 PM ET

April 13, 2011

Pong, thanks for your

Pong, thanks for your comments on my post. I definitely am not a psychologist, but my observation about a rear-area soldier and PTSD was simply from an NPR story I heard recently. One of the interviewees was a female soldier who had a support role in one of the big bases. She said she was putting in for PTSD because of the stress, including some mortar rounds which impacted someplace close enough so that she could hear them.

 

ARMYMAJ

2:06 PM ET

April 13, 2011

Explaining it to your Soldiers

While the derisive attitude against those based on big FOBs and Bases is unfortunate for those that are on the receiving end, as a former Company commander who lived on COPs and JSSs it was a great way to build team spirit within my unit, which was comprised of Tankers and Infantrymen. I know, I know, "One Team" and all that. But still, when your guys have been eating MREs for two weeks and you finally get back to the FOB, it makes you feel a little better to sneer. It makes dealing with the disparity a little easier. Of course, the sneering was done while waiting in line at the local Pizza Hut.

Especially aggravating was finding the finance office closed for lunch or being corrected for wearing your high speed combat shirt in the chow hall. (I believe the SMA fixed that but for a while it was humorous)
Now, what I found funny, was seeing those that served on Big FOBs/Bases in Iraq sneering at those in Kuwait while traveling through on leave or redeployment. As another commenter said, “perspective. “

Something that helped me put it in perspective was the destruction of FOB Loyalty’s coffee shop by lob bombs in Iraq in spring, 2008 during the Sadr uprising. That is the big difference between Manhattan and living on a FOB. You are only a few T-Walls removed from being face to face with people who want to kill you. Anyone who has landed in an Air Base in Iraq or Afghanistan can hug their loved ones extra hard when they return home.

 

HEADHUNTERSIX

2:12 PM ET

April 13, 2011

Staff work

The last few comments were directed at how the various staffs...suck. Tierce do u honestly think many of us mid-grade O's really want to generate the powerpoint BS that we're forced to do. I've served tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan and am headed back next year. I'll be on staff with a support unit that thrives on powerpoint. I'm dreading it. I can assure you we'd all be in a better postion to quickly support the door kickers without powerpoint and the endless series of meetings/working groups and BUA's. People get so engrossed in the slides that they can't understand why the hell the guys in contact can't get slides or reports right. We're being choked by information...never mind hotdogs and pizza.

Every job has its own level of "suck factor" but it beats sitting on some platoon sized FOB preparing to repel the nutbags coming over the wire. Those kids are heroes.

 

STAFF GUY

3:47 PM ET

April 13, 2011

I'm with TIERCE

on this one. My latest, in a very long line of similar, gripe about higher is right there along TIERCE's idea: take all of the staffs at ISAF, IJC, DIV level, etc and ship them down to battalion and company level. Sure, maybe your kludged fireteam of MAJs and LTCs does not work "for" the company commander on FOB WAYOUTTHERE, but they could certainly work for him/her doing on-the-spot analysis and communicating what is necessary up the chain.

What's the downside to this? Staffs exist to enable commanders to make decisions. How many decisions come out of ISAF and IJC and Regional Commands? Sure, the ones that do are usually important, but those are very often not fed by the entire staffs up there. So there is a good bit of fluff that is available to provide support at the lowest levels where it is needed.

The real argument in my mind: what is being executed on the large bases and can our limited assets be better employed. Large bases are always going to have better living conditions, but there is no reason why we, as a military, cannot execute whatever this action in Afghanistan is called in a more effective manner. The end state is not to get more people out where the "action" is going on, the objective is to better execute the intent of ISAF and the US. And I would bet that a large percentage of the staffs at the various levels would be in favor of something like this too.

 

STAFF GUY

4:00 PM ET

April 13, 2011

And just to keep the verbosity rolling...

KAF, and similar large bases, would arguably be much safer if they would actually interact with their local communities. And I do not mean running more presence, or whatever, patrols.

How much of the food consumed on KAF comes from the local area? Effectively, none. But we know where the food goes post-consumption... Food for coalition chow halls is imported from suppliers that have been vetted by the system. Great. Vet some folks in Qandahar. Takes more effort to stay on top of that and ensure a safe and secure supply, but the benefits are well worth the effort. When the local community depends on giant military base X for their economic well-being they have a vested interest in ensuring that said base continues to engage in business in their community. Look at the recent decision to shut down JFCOM, Virginia is still all wound up about the income and jobs that will be lost.

And yes, we and giant base X will not be here forever. Perhaps while we are though we can institute systems that will outlast out stay. Maybe giant base X can slowly replace its consumption with local industry thus maintaining the economic gains. People with food in their belly and sitcoms on the TV are much less likely to support crazy bearded religious dude who wants to blow stuff up. Trite? Maybe, but over the long term it is still true.

Not a complete solution here, but it is something that can be done that will have a visible impact in a very short time and pay significant dividends over the mid-term. Tom Ricks: you can mention this to GEN Petraeus the next time you guys talk. Leave my name out though....

 

HEADHUNTERSIX

4:56 PM ET

April 13, 2011

........and while your at it

Please ask him to ban powerpoint and meetings over 60 mins. If we have to keep slides..ban any slide a 6 year old can't explain.

 

STAFF GUY

3:46 AM ET

April 14, 2011

Why is it

that almost every general/flag officer you speak to will claim a hatred of powerpoint and yet they will still sit through the better part of everyday looking at it? You would think that if they truly did not like powerpoint and meetings then they would take some action. Lack of action is very indicative.

 

HEADHUNTERSIX

4:56 PM ET

April 13, 2011

........and while your at it

Please ask him to ban powerpoint and meetings over 60 mins. If we have to keep slides..ban any slide a 6 year old can't explain.

 

RYAN RETIRED

7:06 PM ET

April 13, 2011

This topic is old!!!

Since November 2001 the discussion of who has it worse on the battlefield has eminated across blogs, chatrooms, newspapers, and all other mediums. Bottom line, the senior military leaders allow this type of large FOB existence to occur because war is about profits and nothing earns a large profit like building a big-ass forward operating base out in the middle of nowhere. This concept isn't new nor unique to Iraq and Afghanistan but has existed in every conflict since probably Vietnam and has progressively gotten sillier as time marches on. The Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen who are assigned to these large bases are doing their duty as ordered and I find the arguments among these uniformed 'studs' as to who is a FOB-it, and who is a 'shooter' humorous. Even some of the most remote bases in Southern Aftghanistan have gyms, ice cream, and internet. It's not as big, selection not as plentiful, and speeds not as fast but it is there nonetheless. Also, these so-called forward operating studs rarely go out on extended patrols. If they're truly 'hard' they go outside the proverbial wire for 72 hour before being relieved or returning to base for so-called refit. GEN Patreaus for all his reputation with "COIN" certainly doesn't practice getting the troops up close and personal with the locals. Most taxpayers are oblivious to the situation and most senior military leaders are punching their tickets up the career ladder as to not sound off too loudly. Before getting canned GEN McChrystal was moving in the direction of leaning out large bases like KAF, BAF, and now new ones like Leatherneck where thousands of FOB-bound "COIN warriors" are tethered to the security of the basecamp vicing walking and living among the very people they were sent there to help. None of this is the fault of the troops, many of whom would gladly live outside the wire, but the decisions of senior military leaders who are more concerned with force protection than truly fighting the "COIN fight".

 

ERIC_STRATTONIII

7:29 PM ET

April 13, 2011

Ryan, not totally like that...

A lot of guys are going out and staying outside the wire for their entire tours. The big push right now is for all SOF to do Village Stability Operations (VSO) and they are living with the locals in small groups, if this continues to be a success they may move some regular troops into VSO Operations as well but the push seems to be going towards a more SOF oriented conflict with "Vanilla" SOF (NSW, MARSOC, SF) doing a mix of VSO and DAs, then the PRTs and NGOs helping the Hearts and Minds side and the Tier One Units performing more and more CT missions with the goal being to put an Afghan face on all of it and eventually have them take the lead and perhaps down the road take the mission and we just provide training and support. So a lot of the guys who are on the FOBs right now will be pushed out to the villages but right now it will mostly be SOF out there living and fighting with the locals until it is validated. Even once it is validated I think the head shed is leaning towards conventional units providing Force Pro and logisitics with a few units, mostly Marine Infantry, getting involved with the VSO mission.

 

Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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