Journalists like to think they speak truth to power, but I don't usually expect the government to try to do so -- especially to financial power, and especially by name on both ends. Money talks, especially to members of Congress who can make life difficult for the bosses of outspoken government employees.

So I was surprised and pleased to see the VA's Alex Horton step up to the question of veterans being sucked into wasting their educational benefits. Here is some straight-up advice that he provided yesterday, where he called out Gibill.com by name:

Go to Google and search for "GI Bill schools." The first link you get isn't a page run by the Department of Veterans Affairs. The first result is GIBill.com, and it uses the name of the most recognized public education program in existence to its financial benefit. It appears to be a legitimate site for information, but a cursory search of its privacy policy shows it is owned by an online marketing firm that, according to a major business publication, specializes in directing students to for-profit schools through its page. It's a questionable marketing strategy that seeks to legitimize a page that serves little purpose other than to funnel student Veterans and convince them their options for education are limited to their advertisers. There are 6,500 schools across the country that allow GI Bill benefits; only use VA's school locator to find qualifying programs. Avoid suspicious websites drowning in advertisements.

This is the second day in a row that I've cited Alex Horton's VA blog. I think that is a first for this blog. He must be doing something right. Whatever they are paying him, your tax dollars are being well spent in at least one corner of the government.  

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SOLDIERSDIARY

1:25 PM ET

February 16, 2011

for profit schools

Frontline did a great peice on these types of schools, people dropping 30k a year to get a degree that can land you 25k per year job

 

OTHER RANKS

11:27 PM ET

February 16, 2011

Not just for-profits

Not-for-profits, both public and private, are also quite happy to take money for degrees that don't pay off. Look at the rate of returns on many popular subjects or number of degree holders in jobs that don't require college skills for a depressing time.

Closer to the defense world, the Army's focus on credentialism is one more example of the problem on the employer side, which is all too common.

 

BOLANDJD

1:43 PM ET

February 16, 2011

If you google just "GI Bill",

If you google just "GI Bill", the actuall VA page is the first link (non-ad link, anyway). If you google GI bill schools, than the GIbill.com link is first. So it seems to be a function of what search parameters you use. As far as GIbill.com exploiting the GI Bill program... Government programs attract shady businesses like moths to a flame. How is this any different from medical supply companies who bilk people on Medicare or grocery stores that "specialize" in food stamps and charge the food stamp maximum for various food items. I don't know if GI Bill exploitation is covered in the manditory pre-seperation training (like the Army's ACAP), but perhaps it should be. I would think that Sec. Shinseki, of all people, ought to have enough pull with the DOD to affect that sort of change. Or VA could add warnings to its various GI Bill literature. That would be pretty easy to do too.

 

LESLEY.G.ORTIZ

2:13 PM ET

February 16, 2011

VA Blog: Who shares the blame?

The issue here becomes figuring out what the real problem is. Do we aim toward educating our Veterans to ensure they don't get taken advantage of or do we target VA to establish tighter controls on what schools and businesses are on their site? Ultimately, we need to frame the right problem to get at the best solution that takes care of our soldiers and veterans.

 

LUVMY91STANG

3:58 PM ET

February 16, 2011

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The two year public school I attend in Florida has been described as the second best education you can get in the state, with the best being at New College in Sarasota. It's shocking that neither school is listed on the website.

I wonder if the U.S. Government can "Eminent Domain" this domain.

Seriously though. There are a couple of ways to look at this. On the one hand, the folks who had the foresight to register this domain and have built it have a right to profit from it. That is the nature of our economic system. Not all for profit schools are a rip off. Are they more expensive? Well yeah. But that doesn't make them a rip off. For instance, some folks attend online classes because that is what works best for them. Making a blanket statement (implication) that they are getting ripped off is unfair.

The other way to look at it is, if a veteran can't make a simple calculation that a $30,000 tuition per year school (outside of selective private schools) is not as cost effective as a sub $4,000 per year state school, I have to wonder if that veteran is cut out to be in college. Hate to be harsh here, but not everyone should go to college. Do they think cost equals value? Do they confuse for profit with private? I don't know, but this is something the VA should probably try and find out.

No doubt DoD and the VA should do as much as they can to advise active duty and vets on the different options they have, but at some point personal responsibility has to enter the equation.

 

AD TO RC

12:05 PM ET

February 17, 2011

The VA's not always the best place to go...

...for info on VA benefits, unfortunately. If you don't believe me, try calling their 1-800 number sometime.

Particularly for people on active duty who are going to school in their off time, it's amazing how few rules the VA has in place -- or at least has published. Active duty people on the Post 9/11 GI bill supposedly get a full ride on tuition, regardless of how expensive the tuition bill is. If those schools have also given a scholarship to the student, the VA benefit paid directly to the school shows up as "excess" money in their account, which can be refunded to the student (since there's no way to "give it back" to the VA) to bring the account balance back to zero (i.e., paid in full).

I know several officers (and spouses who received benefits transferred from their military spouse) who are getting paid thousands of dollars --on top of the full ride-- to go to grad school. Believe me, I'm not complaining -- but there are no rules to govern any of this, and all of it is being made up as the VA goes along. And the VA has no incentive to standardize this process or help the schools figure out what to do, because it's simply paying the tuition bills just like the law instructs them to do.

 

Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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