This song reminds me of Michael Durant's book "In The Company of Heroes" where he mentions while in captivity, a Nightstalker helicopter flew around over Mogadishu playing this song over a loudspeaker...he took it as a sign they had not forgotten him and they were looking for him.

Manowar is basically the perfect band if you're looking for something loud and in your face. They set the record for "loudest performance" on three separate occasions.

And honestly, I'm not surprised that you hadn't heard of them. Outside of a very few bands, metal has its greatest success in Europe (and Japan, oddly.)

And Manowar is interesting in that they are quite influenced by some unusual sources, Wagner being a big one. They did a version of a Puccini aria on one of their recent albums.

too much metal

I understand that tastes differ and I don't begrudge anyone not liking a certain genre, but I wish people wouldn't assume that something as diverse as heavy metal is all "male adolescence." Sure, a lot of it is; but a lot of it isn't. I don't really like country music (save for a song or two), but I know that it isn't all about pickups, cowboys, and losing everything.

I really would have liked to see more Coldplay on the list

-regards
nobody

Is that the name of a heavy metal group? Or just the subject of this post?

Anyway, I was thinking that access to greatly amplified music recorded with the aid of extensive amplification is a relatively recent thing in warfare. American soldiers in Korea had to content themselves with listening to Doris Day a couple of weeks before they arrived on the front lines. In World War II they listened to enemy radio station broadcasting propaganda and old recordings of big band music. They couldn't have gotten as "amped" as today's soldiers, able to listen to their choice of metal, gangsta rap and Michael Bolton until mere minutes before contact with the enemy.

So this is a significant change in the environment today's soldiers live in compared to their predecessors. The question is, does it really help them fight (or do the other things combat forces in Iraq or Afghanistan need to do) any more effectively? Does it help them fight more effectively in the wars they are fighting now -- in other words, is getting "amped" on metal played at high volume more useful before patrolling a village near Kandahar than it would have been before fighting the Wehrmacht in France?

Conversely, might it make them less effective -- in combat, at counterinsurgency, or at maintaining combat readiness? How would we know? And what would the consequences of that reduced effectiveness most likely be?

There is a graduate paper, or six, in this subject, but to end where I started it occurs to me that the taste for a certain kind of music may have a lot to do with how many other people around one are listening to the same thing. The bands and songs on the last Ricks thread about this subject kept showing up over and over: AC/DC, Drowning Pool, Metallica. This is a very small subset of the musical universe, even if the generally simple-minded and juvenile lyrics are excluded. Is it popular with soldiers because of its relation to the kind of war they are fighting, or is it the kind of thing they would listen to anyway if they had never enlisted?

I'll be losing all my tough guy street cred for the Twin Peaks reference. But tis true. LOL.

Regarding Three Six Mafia and the lack of rap on the list. I'll bet this has something to do with the demographics of your blog, but also the demographics of the combat arms branches of our military. African-Americans tend to skew away from combat arms and towards combat support, and combat service support fields - I think they are smarter than us!

Third, I loves me some tanks, but two posts both with old M1A1s? Methinks the BD Graphics department needs to update their catalog.

Lastly, thanks to Tom for listening to a bunch of music he truly hates. That's giving it up for journalistic integrity!

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I am by no means anti-war, pacifist or anything along those lines and I fully understand the mentality of placing oneself in the persona that would would allow an indivdual to take a life(s) but I just think theres a limit to how much we should make it a part of our cultural makeup....... though it without a doubt is entrenched in all cultures in someway or another

With that rant my choice would be Linkin Park: Nobody's Listening

PS... Would the moderator if there is one plz ban Falas93 I don't comment that much but i do enjoy the forums and its getting annoying how long it hasn't been addressed

I'm no soldier, but my family's participation reaches back to the Boar War. And they don't feel remotely American about anything.

And Acca Dacca is Australian.

Hells Bells is ours, and so is our martial spirit.

Kunino, you folks have got Skynyrd and Brittany Spears. Stick that in your pipe pal.

Sorry mate.

"U Ain't A Killa" by Big Punisher easily outclasses these so called war songs posted on here.

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Interestingly, Drowning Pool's "Bodies" was one of the songs that Clear Channel discouraged after 9/11:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Clear_Channel_memorandum

Other songs from this Top 10 list, including all songs by Rage Against the Machine, were discouraged, but "Bodies" had just come out in the summer of 2001, and I think that the song, which is pretty good for the genre, along with the band, would have been much more successful if it was not for Clear Channel's ban, which many other non-affiliated stations followed.

Of course, while some of the other discouraged songs are questionable, the reasons for discouraging “Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" after the WTC collapsed are obvious.

Tom,

Thanks for asking (no-one cares to ask the difficult questions, you know?).

Boars - even common swine - have tormented my family for generations. My great great grandfather, Herbert Josiah McGuigan, declared a War on Swine (nee 'Boar War') back during the last half of the 19th century. Our family actually resettled to Australia around this time - an advance to the hindquarters of sorts.

Things were bad for us in Europe - the swine was making mince meat out of us. Forced, as it were, like so many sausages crammed in a boat for several months we were shipwrecked at Barwon Heads in 1853.

Sadly, there was swine aboard. Some of whom made it ashore. The ensuing years saw a series of skirmishes and battles, the Battle of Burgher, the Stand at Kransky, and the War of Salted Loin, to name a few.

In which time, through the support of the local population, the swine population - through incestuous union - had increased its numbers with agricultural alacrity.

My family smoked them out at times, scalding them before we really turned up the heat. This, of course, was the Battle of Bastings. The years after were apples and gravy.

Not much has really changed since. Nowadays, even when I look a piggy in the eye - there's a gleam, a knowing, a reckoning that crosses our minds. It's a score that runs just under the skin, and crackles up from time to time.

Best,

AAW

For somebody like Ricks, who has not been there - whatever

For those who have:

The Gerry Owen song

The Bug Out Boogie

Wooly Booly (if you were in Nam, where being stoned was the default condition you'd understand)

Hell, I'm a Texan, and I don't buy the SRV's version is better than Hendrix. And it is good to see The Hold Steady get some props.

They did use Jimi's version in Jim Sheridan's In the Name of the Father. It accompanies the scene where Gerry Conlon (Daniel Day-Lewis) is avoiding capture by the British soliders in West Belfast during the 1970's Troubles. So, can Voodoo Child actually be considered an Insurgent song, if we were to assume Conlon as evading the British? Of course, he wasn't political (read: IRA), so that might throw the song - at least Jimi's version - right off the combat list.