One of the most important lessons of Iraq is that nothing improves the quality of local forces like actually having U.S. soldiers work, eat and sleep in the same place as them. Not coincidentally, it also improves the Americans' understanding of the situation.

This was brought home to me by a series of "Company Command" comments that Army magazine carried in its August issue from members of the 25th Infantry Division's 4th Brigade. Here, for example, is Josh Sherer, who as he notes was skeptical of the move:

We established a joint TOC [tactical operations center] with the ANA [Afghan National Army]. Suddenly, we were both watching the same RAID [Rapid Assessment and Initial Detection] camera feed, hearing each other's intel reports over the radio. Wow, what a difference that made....

I'm not going to lie; I resisted this idea of a joint TOC initially. I had serious concerns about the Afghans seeing all of our capabilities and SIPR [Secure Internet Protocol Router] computers. The complete trust just wasn't there. But now, joint TOCs partnered with ANA -- what a difference that made. I could just go up to the Afghan S-3 and say, "What do you want to plan this week? I'm doing these things with my platoon leaders. What do you want to plan for your patrols?...."

That's definitely the way forward. They get so much better tactically -- just basic soldier skills -- by having our guys right next to theirs. Putting their mortar beside our mortar: They're learning from our mortar men, taking care of barrels and personal weapons, drinking chai together. The gains we could not make during our first eight months of random partnering once a month we made in two or three weeks because we were living together. Although I wasn't a fan at first, now I preach it.

John Moore/Getty Images

 

RUBBER DUCKY

3:10 PM ET

September 13, 2010

illustrates what's wrong with our Army

1. Believes better tactics can substitute for strategy.

2. Believes good tactical execution constitutes 'winning.'

3. In our longest war ever, is still trying to get at the basics of tactics and operational art for this new environment.

I wish the lieutenants and NCOs well. They're on their own...

 

TYRTAIOS

3:24 PM ET

September 13, 2010

Shot - over

Mortar training, I like mortar training, One can tube HE into defilades, draws and deep valleys easier than non-organic artillery. Let us hope the ROE will be slightly more liberal for the Afghan soldier than our own forces, and further hope a literate Afghan is running the plotting board.

Ok, my good natured sarcasm aside, the statement, "that nothing improves the quality of local forces like actually having U.S. soldiers work, eat and sleep in the same place as them," is indeed a time tested fact.

However, I read over on SWJ, the Taliban initiate contact at 500 meters and our American forces apparently don't have the skill set to accurately return small arms fire at that distance. My point being: perhaps we should be careful not to mirror the Afghan Army to closely to our own forces - damn, there's another good natured jibe!

 

CEOUNICOM

1:06 AM ET

September 22, 2010

Question -

""the statement, "that nothing improves the quality of local forces like actually having U.S. soldiers work, eat and sleep in the same place as them," is indeed a time tested fact.""

What improves US forces?...

The assumption here is that they have a lot to learn from us. Are we learning from them, or is this a one-way street?

 

WALKING WOUNDED

4:58 PM ET

September 13, 2010

In LIC, 'Politics by other means' is local

My current read is Bing West's first (I think) book, "The Village", an early 1966 Combined Action Patrol effort that he watched as a captain. The reason this cluster of rural hamlets had a relatively larger component of residents who hadn't resigned themselves to VC control had something to do with rivalries across the river where the VC strength was, competition for fishing rights.

The VC lost ground when their village based leadership was killed/captured, and prevailed when Marine volunteer efforts proved unable to protect local allies and leadership from targeted assassination, a nearly impossible task.

Af-Pak reportage that lacks resolution at even the macro pashtun/non-pashtun level upsets me. If the guy with the beard above is a farsi speaking Tajik, the output effect of US troops accompanying his squad thru Pashtun turf might have nothing to do with his tactical skills or grand strategy. If he is a wrong flavor of local, say from a rival village/clan competing for water, timber, jobs, district influence over the long haul, it might be even worse.

Given the rotation and range of our leadership and troops, the agendas of almost anyone we partner with, the chances of 'beard' being the right guy, in partnership with the right Americans, on a productive mission, seems pretty slim.

After 30 years of fratricide, it's that kind of a war. We're just the greek of the week.

 

JPWREL

4:59 PM ET

September 13, 2010

Excellence at fighting is no

Excellence at fighting is no substitute for a clear set of realistic war aims and a coherent strategy to bring those aims to realization. The Germans twice in the past century, particularly in their last war demonstrated an unmatched skill and professionalism at ‘fighting’ but that lethal prowess did not save them from a consistent inability to formulate a realistic war winning strategy. They, like us, underestimated the will, advantages and circumstances of their opponents and egocentrically over estimated their own ability to impose their will, as they would wish.

Like us in Iraq and Afghanistan their ‘hopes’ in both wars were for quick victorious campaigns. Our amateurish and reckless leadership confused driving into downtown Baghdad with ‘winning’ and pushing rather than destroying Taliban into Pakistan’s mountains as ‘victory’. Like RD my sympathies are to the men in field who must bear up, preserver and take their knocks because their leadership seem about as clueless as any could be.

 

MARTY MARTEL

7:23 PM ET

September 13, 2010

Go after Mullah Omar's QST in Baluchistan for Afghan win

Putting ‘US soldiers alongside Afghan ones’ as recommended by Josh Sherer is NOT going to suffice to win in Afghanistan as long as Gates, Mullen, Patraeus trio keeps offering alibis for Pakistan sheltering Mullah Omar’s QST in Baluchistan and Haqqani’s HQN in North Waziristan.

Obama administration has continued to ignore Afghan Taliban’s Pakistani connections in fueling and sustaining Taliban’s Afghan insurgency as reported by Matt Waldman in ‘The sun in the sky‘ on 6/13/2010, corroborated by WikiLeaks leaks on 7/25/2010 and then further corroborated by Chris Alexander, Canadian ambassador to Afghanistan from 2003 to 2005 and Deputy Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General for Afghanistan from 2005 until 2009 in his article on 7/30/2010 titled ‘The huge scale of Pakistan‘s complicity‘.

All American officers in southern Afghanistan know that they can not prevail in the ongoing military operations, unless Taliban strongholds across the Durand Line in North Waziristan and Baluchistan are neutralized. Adm Mullen and Gen Patraeus evidently do not want to acknowledge that hard options have to be considered if their soldiers are not to die at the hands of radicals, armed and trained across the Durand Line.

But Defense Secretary Gates, Admiral Mullen and General Petraeus have continued to justify Pakistani government’s (Pakistani Army as well as civilian government) terrorist connections by always evading to answer most fundamental question - why haven’t they ordered drone attacks on Mullah Omar’s QST in Baluchistan?

As Afghan President Karzai told a news conference in Kabul on 7/29/2010 after WikiLeaks leaks, “The time has come for our international allies to know that the war against terrorism is not in Afghanistan’s homes and villages. But rather this war is in the sanctuaries, funding centers and training places of terrorism which are in Pakistan. Our international allies have the ability to destroy these Pakistani sanctuaries, but the question is why they are not doing it?“

Afghanistan’s national security advisor Rangin Dadfar Spanta asked the same question in a Washington Post article on 8/23/2010: “While we are losing dozens of men and women to terrorist attacks every day, the terrorists’ main mentor (Pakistan) continues to receive billions of dollars in aid and assistance. How is this fundamental contradiction justified? Despite facing a growing domestic terror threat, Pakistan “continues to provide sanctuary and support to the Quetta Shura, the Haqqani network, the Hekmatyar group and Al Qaeda. Dismantling the terrorist infrastructure “requires confronting the state of Pakistan that still sees terrorism as a strategic asset and foreign policy tool.”

Poor Karzai’s call to his Western allies ‘to destroy Islamist militant sanctuaries in neighboring Pakistan’ is falling on deaf ears in Washington where powers to be are hell bent on sacrificing Afghanistan to mollycoddle Pakistan.

 

TYRTAIOS

7:36 PM ET

September 13, 2010

One Eyed Jack

MARTY MARTEL, finding Mullah Omar is easier said than done. The man apparently keeps switching his eye patch from left to right, and back again, and our analysts have trouble identifying him. . .know what I'm saying here dog?

 

JPWREL

8:09 PM ET

September 13, 2010

MARTY MARTEL, what you are

MARTY MARTEL, what you are really talking about here but seem to not want to say is in effect that the United States should dismantle Pakistan. That would be an interesting jacket to try on for size. Perhaps after all we have learned in Iraq and Afghanistan that might only take 500 years and a hundred trillion dollars.

 

CEOUNICOM

1:10 AM ET

September 22, 2010

re: guys, don't waste your time.

Marty is a spambot created by some Indian entrepreneur. He does various Madlibs posts about how the US needs to invade Pakistan. Sometimes it actually sounds sensible. He quotes news! See! But after version 21394 of the same post, it gets boring. He will post 25 versions of the above on the AfPak channel this week, with minor variations.

Those indians are good programmers...

 

CEOUNICOM

1:12 AM ET

September 22, 2010

...don't believe me?...

Search FP for the term "mollycoddle"

 

CARL

8:43 PM ET

September 13, 2010

When I read the post and the

When I read the post and the article it cited, I just thought it was about how when small American units work closely with small Afghan units the Afghan units improve quite a bit in a short time. I didn't realize the true meaning was how bankrupt American grand strategy is. I'll have to read more carefully next time.

JPWREL: I don't know whether you trotted out your trusty straw man or if it is the fallacy of the false alternative. No matter, you end up in the same place.

It seems to me Mr. Martel is foremost lamenting that we refuse to see the game the Pak Army/ISI is running on us, even though it is killing our people. We can't take action against something we refuse to see, whether that action is a Hellfire in the courtyard of a compound in Quetta or cutting off the billions the Pak Army/ISI use to buy and play with really cool toys. That is rather a long way from wanting to "dismantle Pakistan".

 

WALKING WOUNDED

10:21 PM ET

September 13, 2010

Really cool IRPak toys

FWIW, they did have another source of income; stealing euro enrichment tech for swap to China, and producing plutonium weapons to put on the Chinese missiles defending Islam's holy places.

The Great Game this century is bigger than ISI, or even the 'never forgive/forget' allies at the Kremlin.

However it's mis-spent, will Team Pakistan's allowance keep them from selling their premium product? Will expanding our overt missile strikes to include Quetta destabilize what civil authority there is in Islamabad, serve more to recruit for than suppress cult jihadism? These are expensive experiments to run, and our practitioners aren't into sharing their preliminary data.

 

CARL

10:59 PM ET

September 13, 2010

My opinion is any missile

My opinion is any missile strikes in Quetta or anywhere else in Pakistan are a feel good waste of effort. They are only career enhancing bullet points for various bureaucrats of the spook variety, career collectibles so to speak. The problem is the Pak Army/ISI's view of the world. A Hellfire here or there isn't going to change that. If that view was to change, they might move a dozen or so of the divisions they have on their eastern border waiting for the onslaught of the Indian hordes to the west and use them to mostly solve everybody's problem.

The crux is all this is getting the Pak Army/ISI to change their view of the world. Cutting off their billions would at least get their attention. But we can't do anything at all as long as we reside in the ante-room to their mansion in cloud cuckoo land.

 

JPWREL

11:13 PM ET

September 13, 2010

CARL, the only thing that is

CARL, the only thing that is important in Afghanistan is ‘strategy’ and whether our war aims are realistic and obtainable within a time and cost proportional to those aims? The time is long past for tactical tinkering that should have been implemented nine years ago. And yes, dismantling Pakistan is essentially what would be required in order to bring strategic stability into the area and remove the threat of ISI sponsorship of the Taliban and Islamabad’s potential for further nuclear mischief.

 

KLMOLNAR

10:44 PM ET

September 13, 2010

The United States soldiers

The United States soldiers understanding of the people with whom they are working is crucial. The same could be said for the Afghan soldiers. The soldiers from both countries living together obviously has the potential bring the two nations together.
If the United States has information, training, or strategies that need to eventually be transferred to the Afghan soldiers, why not do it now? There is no harm in training the Afghan soldiers to do what the United States needs them to do once the US troops come home from Afghanistan. If the United States wants the Afghan soldiers to continue this fight after they leave, United States soldiers will have to form strong bonds with Afghan soldiers.
Additionally, if the Afghan soldiers have access to the technology that the United States possesses, they have a greater chance of success. This translates to success in Afghanistan for the United States.

 

CARL

2:14 AM ET

September 14, 2010

JPWREL: The time is never

JPWREL: The time is never past for tactical tinkering. If it is the second last day of the last war and somebody tinkers with a tactic, it may save somebody on the last day who otherwise would have died; even if that tactic should have been tinkered with years before. It is cheap shot sharp shooting to criticize the Army for trying to do its' job better however and whenever it can.

I think changing the outlook of the Pakistani Army general staff is not the same as dismantling Pakistan. However if I were a member of that general staff I would be delighted that I have convinced others that the fate of the country and the fate of a portion of the Army are one and the same.

I would also point out that "the threat of ISI sponsorship of the Taliban" has been a reality for rather a long time.

 

Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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