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The estimable Rajiv Chandrasekaran points out that VP Biden recently said on MSNBC's Morning Joe, on Tues. Dec. 15, about  the American approach in Afghanistan that, "This is not a COIN strategy."

This is going to be a surprise to General McChrystal, who thinks it is.

What a hot tranny mess! The fact of the matter is that, pretty much as usual, Biden doesn't know what he is talking about. He has some vague notion of counterinsurgency as a massive, nation-wide effort. But word on the street is that he has been dozing during the briefings: In fact, McChrystal and his boss, the once-prominent Gen. David Petraeus, have explicitly said that the revamped approach is focused on only about 40 percent of Afghanistan, and that even within that area, outlying areas won't be handled in a troop-intensive, classic counterinsurgency manner, but rather with focused counter-terror raids.

Request to NSC: Will someone over there have the VP and his posse get a brief  on counterinsurgency from the Special Operators on the Joint Staff before he shoots off his mouth again? I mean, do him a favor. 

Long-term benefit: I have long been struck at how consistently good Joe Biden and John Kerry have been as counterindicators of what their party, and their nation, should do. Age doesn't always bring wisdom -- sometimes it just brings seniority.

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TOTAL

11:07 AM ET

December 28, 2009

"have explicitly said that

"have explicitly said that the revamped approach is focused on only about 40 percent of Afghanistan, and that even within that area, outlying areas won't be handled in a troop-intensive, classic counterinsurgency manner, but rather with focused counter-terror raids."

So Biden is, in fact, correct: it's not a COIN strategy, but a hybrid of classic countersinsurgency in 40% of the country supplemented by counter-terror in the remainders. Now, he may not have meant that, and may have been wrong in the way you ascribe, but this isn't convincing evidence. And adding in the gratuitous rumors of him sleeping during briefings is unprofessional.

 

NORWEGIAN SHOOTER

4:43 PM ET

December 28, 2009

100% agree with Total

Noting that it is a COIN strategy only in the cities of 40% of the country. Tom, having lived in Afghanistan, should know that this covers a small percent of the total number of Afghans.

 

TOTAL

11:08 AM ET

December 28, 2009

"remainder", sorry.

"remainder", sorry.

 

GIAN P GENTILE

1:27 PM ET

December 28, 2009

Coin Is Not Strategy; Coin Is a Military Method to build Nations

Counterinsurgency is not, NOT, a strategy. I am continually amazed by folks who so easily throw that term out there. Even David Kilcullen has acknowledged as much that it is not strategy.

Instead Population Centric Counterinsurgency which the de jour term of Coin implies is an operational method, nothing more and nothing less. The mistake we make is when folks elevate it to the realm of strategy which it is not. But see that is the problem nowadays in Afghanistan in that we really have no strategy, but just a set of Coin operational methods and tactics; or, a strategy of Coin tactics.

Um, Tom, in fact Counterinsurgency is by demand a massive nation building effort. Nation building is the essential element to the kind of Coin that has become the American Army's New Way of War. FM 3-24 acknowledged that Coin is nation building as did Galula, Thompson, and the rest.

But I ask, if we are not doing nation building in Afghanistan then what are we doing there, Jack McCuen's notions of Hybrid War? I get more and more confused by the minute in this age of the graduate level of war.

gian

 

JASON SIGGER

1:53 PM ET

December 28, 2009

What Gian said

COIN isn't a strategy, Tom, and you should know better by now. I think if you look at recent speeches by Patreaus and McChrystal, you'll see that they make a distinction between operational tactics and national strategy for the wars in the Middle East. The president sets the strategy, the military executes operations and tactics.

"...how consistently good Joe Biden and John Kerry have been as counterindicators of what their party, and their nation, should do:"

Really, Tom? Considering the "leadership" of the Democratic party for the past 3-8 years, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Establishing an alternative to the Republican party's past (failed) direction seems to be something the Dems have not done well, so if Biden and Kerry have ideas that are new and different, I'm willing to go there.

 

WALKING WOUNDED

2:53 PM ET

December 28, 2009

VP Biden as a contra-indicator

Biden's view that (in effect) a federal-ish partition of Iraq into the three ''stan's" is inevitable, and therefore a policy imperative, may have been stated at impolitic times and impolite ways.

But as the 'unravelling' thread here indicates, the 'Partition Happens' thesis is far from proven wrong. At the 2006 tipping point, several prominent democratic wonks were preparing 'managing the partition' policy positions. Then "THE SURGE" and 'strategic patience' became the next new thing.

Watch the Barzani play for a greater independent Kurdistan. If the Hakim-Maliki coalition falls apart, visions and versions of a Shiastan will re-emerge and clash with resurgent Anbari-Sunni regionalism.

VP Joe may not be as dumb (in hindsight) as his foot-in-mouth timing makes him look.

 

NORWEGIAN SHOOTER

4:55 PM ET

December 28, 2009

Good stuff, WW

The Kurdish north is already virtually partitioned. The "partition should happen" argument has been abandoned, not proven wrong.

 

PETE

3:46 PM ET

December 28, 2009

Psyops

Found on another website:

The ground war in Afghanistan heated up yesterday when the NATO Allies revealed plans to airdrop a platoon of crack French existentialist philosophers into the country to destroy the morale of al-Qaeda by proving the non-existence of God.

Elements from the feared Jean-Paul Sartre Brigade, notoriously known as the Les Bérets Noirs or "Black Berets," will be parachuted into various combat zones to spread doubt, despondency, "ennui," and existential "anomie" among the enemy. Hardened by numerous intellectual battles fought during their long occupation of Paris' Left Bank, their first action will be to establish a number of sidewalk cafés at strategic points near the front lines.

There they will drink coffee, sip Pernod, and talk animatedly about the absurd nature of life and man's lonely isolation in the universe. They will be accompanied by a number of heartbreakingly beautiful girlfriends who will further spread dismay by sticking their tongues in the philosophers' ears every five minutes and looking remote and unattainable to everyone else.

The brigade leader, Colonel Marc-Ange Belmondo, spoke yesterday of his confidence in the success of their mission. Sorbonne graduate Belmondo, a very intense and unshaven young man in a black turtlenecked pullover, gesticulated wildly and said, "The al-Qaeda, they are caught in a logical fallacy of the most ridiculous. There is no God and I can prove it. Take your tongue out of my ear, Juliet, I am talking."

Marc-Ange plans to deliver an impassioned thesis on man's nauseating freedom of action with special reference to the works of Kierkegaard, Foucault, Nietzsche, plays by Camus, and the films of Alfred Hitchcock.

However, humanitarian agencies have been quick to condemn the operation as inhumane, pointing out that the effects of second hand smoke from the Frenchmen's endless Gauloises could wreak a terrible toll on civilians in the area.

Speculation was mounting last night that Britain may also contribute to the effort by dropping Professor Stephen Hawking into Afghanistan to propagate his non-deistic theory of the creation of the universe. Other tactics to demonstrate the non-existence of God will include the dropping of leaflets pointing out the fact that Michael Jackson has a new album out and Jesse Helms has not died yet. This is only one of several Psy-Ops operations mounted by the Allies.

 

WATSON

6:13 PM ET

December 28, 2009

We have religion; they have voodoo.

That’s a funny spoof. Unfortunately, a “logic offensive” is not in our arsenal.

One might say that organized religion is mostly hokum**, and that we shouldn’t waste our time with it. But it has a strong hold on a large segment of American society, including our last two presidents, Bush and Obama.

Our widespread acceptance that Scripture (with all of its vengeful violence) is the revealed word of a supernatural being, and that humans are capable of knowing the rules and intentions of this being, validates the analytical mode that the leaders of al Qaeda use to justify their various missions from God. We have forfeited our ability to criticize our enemies on a moral basis.

(** No offense intended to the devout, but there is something very important about the concept of “keeping it real”.)

 

WALKING WOUNDED

2:35 AM ET

December 29, 2009

keeping it real

Is it possible for men that humbly meditate barefoot, five times a day, to achieve victory over a civilization that sets conditions for military success by contracting for Pizza Hut logistic support?

Consider the 5,000 nearly defeated men who once shivered and starved at Valley Forge. Faith and hardship breeds a tempered tenacity.

 

WATSON

11:36 AM ET

December 29, 2009

"There are no atheists in foxholes" ...

... isn't an argument against atheism, it's an argument against foxholes. (James Morrow)

It’s true that belief in the supernatural is sometimes an asset in battle. The Haitian soldiers under Toussaint and Dessalines are said to have been inspired by the belief that if they died in combat they would wake up in Africa; and the low-tech guided missiles known as shaheeds are somewhat of an equalizer in asymmetrical warfare.

But religious faith is generally more effective in starting conflicts than in winning them.

 

WALKING WOUNDED

3:00 AM ET

December 30, 2009

Religious insurgents

can be like Stonewall, Longstreet, or Massood. There is nothing preventing artillery, logic and tactics from enhancing a holy war's prospects for staying power and victory. The jihadis have been studying rocketry, Lenin and Ho, aligning themselves with 'wars of national liberation.'

Moslem empires were applying Greek math, Roman engineering and inventing the zero, when my euro ancestors were wearing smelly animal skins and dying of the plague.

And sometimes the troublesome priests are as dangerous in death as they were alive.

 

ADMIRAL

9:32 PM ET

December 28, 2009

Where is King David?

Col Pat Lang's take on the article frrom the District of Corruption's propaganda organ, WP.

"It appears that the Afghan policy war is not over. Chandrasekaran is a good reporter but not good enough to get this unaided. Sooo, someone(s) at the NSC briefed him so that the message would be delivered to the "other team" that their behavior is being watched closely and that the NSC team is prepared to use the public media as a weapon if need be.

The reporter then went to the Defense Department where he was told their side of the story. Secretary Gates appears to have become the leader of the pentagon faction.

Petraeus is interestingly absent from this nearly open struggle. He will wait to see what the outcome may be.

A major confrontation over policy and presidential authority is coming. The policy review scheduled for July 2010 may well precipitate it. "

http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2009/12/men-on-horseback.html#comments

 

DANIEL

10:32 AM ET

December 29, 2009

As the great Vinturi once

As the great Vinturi once said, "Knowledge and expertise are quite unlike one another." I think Biden has a good grasp of domestic policy, but give the guy a break. He wasn't elected to command armored divisions.

 

Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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