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My CNAS colleague Matthew Irvine wandered over to Capitol Hill on Tuesday to watch Gen. McChrystal and Amb. Eikenberry testify. This is his report:

Tuesday morning I went to see the House Armed Services Committee question General Stanley McChrystal. For most of the session, that is just what the hearing titled "Afghanistan: Results of the Strategic Review, Part II" seemed to be. The high-profile testimony was an opportunity for the 63 members of the committee to hear from the top American officials in Afghanistan.

Together, General Stanley McChrystal and Ambassador Karl Eikenberry brought a total of seven stars and nearly a decade of command experience in Afghanistan to the House Visitor Center. However, the Armed Services Committee appeared to only recognize half of this portfolio. Most of the committee forgot about Ambassador Eikenberry. (Perhaps because his grey suit lacked four polished stars?)

The committee devoted its time to General McChrystal at Ambassador Eikenberry's expense, asking the commander three times the number of questions and giving him countless more compliments. My informal question tally: McChrystal 69, Eikenberry 23. This number even gives the committee credit for questions the ambassador posed to himself.

The attention given to McChrystal is understandable given the nature of the audience, the armed services committee. Regardless, only one member, Chairman Ike Skelton, mentioned the leaked cables written by Ambassador Eikenberry just weeks ago that expressed a high level of doubt of a troop surge, given the state of Afghan governance. Some members did ask Eikenberry about Afghan corruption but failed to link it to General McChrystal's stated campaign goal of "governance and security." Effective counterinsurgency is said to require civil-military integration at every level; it'd be nice if Congress led by example.

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WITTY_AL

6:54 PM ET

December 9, 2009

Question

I understand that this is not directly related to the above post. But I found this comment to be excellent and would love to hear your thoughts as well as any thoughts of Military leaders that you might contact.

'Why are we spending a multiple of Afghanistan's total GDP fighting a war in that country?'

'Could more be done, for less, with cash for bribes and development? How is it that it doesn't take the Taliban years to train competent soldiers?'
~ Matt Yglesias

Regarding the first of those questions, I would also ask why are we spending so much but seeing such poor results?

Any comments you might have would be appreciated.

 

TYRTAIOS

7:52 PM ET

December 9, 2009

Possibly an Answer?

Have you ever practiced martial arts? A great Japanese sword master once said, "If the enemy expects fire give him rain."

In martial arts, novice fighters will routinely launch a kicking technique first, to close the distance, followed by a hand technique to score. During a match, you can see this same combination repeated over and over without any fighter catching on and changing tactics.

After eight years of the same novice tactics without any strategy, year-in-year-out, we are finally going from fire to rain - get it? We're no longer novices, unfortunately, the match "may" be over?

 

ADMIRAL

1:57 AM ET

December 10, 2009

Poor results and lost money

"...why are we spending so much but seeing such poor results?"

The high spending is mainly because our current generals are too stupid and ignorant to understand basic economics, and really don't care any way, as long as they get theirs. The pentagon is the most corrupt government department in the history of the US. The pentagon can not account for trillions of dollars it took from tax payers. They have robbed America blind, and continue to do so every day.

Our current generals are incapable of winning wars. They have the worst track record in US history. They are better at running their own career than the military. The results will get worse, and the bottom feeders through their incredible stupidity, ignorance and selfishness will cause more of our people to be killed and mutilated in order to further their own careers, because that is all these worthless cretans care about.

 

NORWEGIAN SHOOTER

7:46 PM ET

December 9, 2009

Talk about the blind leading

What a disgrace. It seems that the fact of having them co-testify would make any question about the leaked cable uncomfortable to ask. I'm very curious as to the exact question and answer. My guess is the topic was quickly, and very politely, swept under the rug.

On Afghan corruption, an Armed Forces committee with priorities to successfully set up an Afghan government that could prevent al-Qaeda from using its territory and/or to safely bring our troops home would have linked those basic COIN points together. But unfortunately, the committee is incentivized to keep pouring resources into Afghanistan, especially materiel and contractors. So I can understand their inability to figure out this elementary issue.

Again, as Upton Sinclair said:

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it"

 

ADMIRAL

7:51 PM ET

December 9, 2009

Same old story, same old song and dance

The failure of a general goes to the seat of rot and corruption of the banana republic and says we will win, again.

"An emerging third world country can not continue to fight wars that it does not understand in places it can only vaguely imagine." Col. Patrick Lang 12/9/09

http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2009/12/going-south-by-ximena-ortiz.html#comments

 

SALOMANDER

4:40 AM ET

December 10, 2009

Strangely enough, the AfPak policy is one area, the only

area, where Present Obama actually has improved his poll numbers.

Of course you're aware that his approval numbers(45-47) are in the septic tank area, lower than any President since truman -- lower than Truman, even. GWBush? The highest for any President at this point in their first term.

Yes, Obama is well on his way to being the Worst. President. Ever. And it's only the first year!

I listened to some of Petraeus/Eikenberry/some guy from State not Holbrooke at the Senate Foreign Relations hearing today. Swifty Kerry and Lugar pontificated, Petraeus took a victory lap for Iraq, everyone was on the same page -- very harmonious.

Obama kicks the can down the road (not easy to do when you ran for two years on escalating Afghanistan -- but who's counting? not the presstitutes who cover Obama) the fighters get a chance to fight for a few years; the politicians get a CYA.. Everybody's happy.

 

CHARLIEFORD

4:47 AM ET

December 10, 2009

You've got to be kidding?

Everybody knows Bush was only second worst.

The worst was Jefferson Davis.

 

JASON SIGGER

2:09 PM ET

December 10, 2009

Key phrase being...

"at this point in their first term" - nice how you ignore Bush's abysmal second term numbers. Anyone, to include Strom Thurman, could have gotten high marks after 9/11. Let's not pretend that GW was anything but a failure to direct military actions in the Middle East.

 

JASON SIGGER

3:48 PM ET

December 10, 2009

oh and by the way

You shouldn't count on O'Reilly Factor speeches as your source of information. Both Ford and Clinton had lower approval ratings in their first years.

 

RBB

2:47 PM ET

December 10, 2009

Why McChrystal?

Because he is the commander, not Eikenberry -- who is an advisor. Like it or not, that is the way the lines run.

One would like to see McChrystal and Eikenberry see everything eye to eye, and speak with one voice to their higher -- but that is never guaranteed, and difference of opinion is valid.

Why question Eikenberry about the leak, unless you think he intentionally leaked it to get his view on public record at the expense of McChrystal. I don't think anyone believes that to be the case. The committee didn't delve into it because they know those responsible are in the West Wing, not State or the Pentagon.

As for admiral's tin-foil assertions, the Congress sets the rules for financial payments to Afghans. Army units can't buy a piece of lumber without a stack of paperwork, much less "rent" support. The generals (and certainly the COLs and LTCs) are more than happy to use money as a real tool -- but it is contracting law that stops it.

 

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Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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