Posted By Thomas E. Ricks Share

I don't know why, but this year I really have a strong sense of gratitude for all that I have been given in this life. Much of what I am grateful for, like my wife and family, has been there for a long time, so I think the difference is that this year I have a little bit of breathing space or distance. For the first time in a very long time, I am not in the middle of trying to report a news story or to finish writing a book. I've produced four books, each in one year, but the one I am working on now will take several years, and that makes a huge difference in quality of life for me and those around me.     

I saw a set of guidelines for on-line conversation linked by the comments on Abu Mook's farewell address. What do youse think?

Some things I know about moderating conversations in virtual space:

1. There can be no ongoing discourse without some degree of moderation, if only to kill off the hardcore trolls. It takes rather more moderation than that to create a complex, nuanced, civil discourse. If you want that to happen, you have to give of yourself. Providing the space but not tending the conversation is like expecting that your front yard will automatically turn itself into a garden.

2. Once you have a well-established online conversation space, with enough regulars to explain the local mores to newcomers, they'll do a lot of the policing themselves.

3. You own the space. You host the conversation. You don't own the community. Respect their needs. For instance, if you're going away for a while, don't shut down your comment area. Give them an open thread to play with, so they'll still be there when you get back.

4. Message persistence rewards people who write good comments.

5. Over-specific rules are an invitation to people who get off on gaming the system.

6. Civil speech and impassioned speech are not opposed and mutually exclusive sets. Being interesting trumps any amount of conventional politeness.

7. Things to cherish: Your regulars. A sense of community. Real expertise. Genuine engagement with the subject under discussion. Outstanding performances. Helping others. Cooperation in maintenance of a good conversation. Taking the time to teach newbies the ropes.

All these things should be rewarded with your attention and praise. And if you get a particularly good comment, consider adding it to the original post.

8. Grant more lenience to participants who are only part-time jerks, as long as they're valuable the rest of the time.

9. If you judge that a post is offensive, upsetting, or just plain unpleasant, it's important to get rid of it, or at least make it hard to read. Do it as quickly as possible. There's no more useless advice than to tell people to just ignore such things. We can't. We automatically read what falls under our eyes.

10. Another important rule: You can let one jeering, unpleasant jerk hang around for a while, but the minute you get two or more of them egging each other on, they both have to go, and all their recent messages with them. There are others like them prowling the net, looking for just that kind of situation. More of them will turn up, and they'll encourage each other to behave more and more outrageously. Kill them quickly and have no regrets.

11. You can't automate intelligence. In theory, systems like Slashdot's ought to work better than they do. Maintaining a conversation is a task for human beings.

12. Disemvowelling works. Consider it.

13. If someone you've disemvowelled comes back and behaves, forgive and forget their earlier gaffes. You're acting in the service of civility, not abstract justice.

Meantime, this is the last set of postings til Monday. If you get bored, or tired of Uncle Pete going on about how Dan Snyder ruined the Redskins, read over these guidelines again.    

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RUBBER DUCKY

11:30 PM ET

November 25, 2009

OK

Tom-

The guidelines sound fine, the sort of thing adults might agree on. Much appreciate the time you give this blog and and your balanced hand. The alternative - ignore it and treat it like a self-licking ice cream cone - invites chaos. Takes effort, takes judgment, takes patience. Thank you.

 

BILL KELLER

1:30 AM ET

November 26, 2009

Cell phones have no feedback loop...

unlike the wireline plain old telephone which automatically increase the volume in the ear piece to let the speaker know it is too loud. That is why cell phones users become so loud without realizing so.

Writing in the comment section goes out with even less feedback as words go across with no tone, no qualities of voice. The writer may think firm, the reader may perceive a caustic assault. Less firmness in writing is perceived as being vague or worse deceptive.

Without an editor, intellectual feedback is left to judgment and spell check. Sometimes without realizing, it is easy to harp the sideshow barker that pervades the airways as broad as the noise of the seven cycle hum, the white noise of the universe.

Abu Mook leaving and Phillip Carter's resignation at DoD are both a loss outside and inside. But breaking swords can be tiresome and pondering is helpful even when young. Wonder what their Muse is calling.

Tom as well as all the Gladiators here, have a good Thanksgiving. Longer term commitments are now to come.

 

JSINAIKO

1:36 AM ET

November 26, 2009

Common-sensical and

Common-sensical and reasonable.

One of the reasons The Best Defense - beyond the broad subject matter you and your readers and commenters write about - is the general civility of your blog and the comment threads in it. It's possible to have an actual exchange of ideas complete with strong disagreements, passion, and some snark. But in general it is serious yet fun, with real discussions and conversations. I mean, have you ever read the comment sections in Politico? My God!

Good stuff - may everyone have a great Thanksgiving!

 

JEFFREYR

2:07 AM ET

November 26, 2009

Thanks

I've been reading the blog since its inception, it has become a standard part of my day and an appreciated escape from work. While I haven't often added comments, I do read them and appreciate the civil and stimulating dialogue that ensues.

On Thanksgiving, thanks Tom.

 

TYRTAIOS

3:22 AM ET

November 26, 2009

Hechetu welo! : o

"This pipe is now very sacred, for the whole universe has seen it. So tell us the truth, and be sure that you make nothing up! Since you are about to put this pipe to your mouth, you should tell us nothing but the truth. The pipe is waken and knows all things; you cannot fool it."

What Rubber Ducky, Bill Keller, jsinaiko, and JeffreyR said goes for me - in spades. Have a great Thankgiving weekend everyone, and thanks for the venue Tom Ricks.

 

ADRIANAC

6:28 AM ET

November 27, 2009

re: Happy Thanksgiving, and some rules of the road

Thank you for the tips you have given to me. At least now I will know what I should do this Thanksgiving. But first, I have to save enough money for the holiday so that I wont have to borrow some money. If you need to borrow money, better keep an eye on your mental health. Money and mental health are connected to one degree or another, and when your income slows or is strained it has a negative effect, and it can even leave you as a patient without means to get the help you need, meaning you'd have the options of either borrowing money or leaving bills to go to collections unpaid.

 

ZATHRAS

4:08 PM ET

November 27, 2009

Good rules

Bloggers have struggled with comment sections since the beginning. Usually that's because they only realized the problems comment sections could produce after the fact. Some very good bloggers, like Kevin Drum and Steve Clemons, have struggled to keep their comment sections from being an affront to readers. They could benefit from taking "Ricks' Rules" to heart.

Rule #9, by the way, is a good one to apply to "comments" like the one immediately upthread. I don't know what the return on spam like this could possibly be, but it merits deletion upon detection.

Have a good weekend, everyone.

 

JOHN F

4:40 PM ET

November 27, 2009

rules of the road

Smart rules. Schoolteachers may recognize how similar they are to classroom management.

 

MJC

4:22 AM ET

November 28, 2009

Rules and a Deep Breath

These are good rules, and worth reminding the community of each month. The Thanksgiving break comes at a good time. The President is able to conclude his deliberations and prepare his West Point address. And serious citizens can take a deep breath before listening on Tuesday night and weighing in on the next chapter in the AfPak theatre. It will be an important week for the country and a lively one on this blog.

May God protect the troops.

 

NORWEGIAN SHOOTER

6:49 AM ET

November 28, 2009

Happy Thanksgiving to all, and to all a good nap!

Thanks Tom and all (well, almost all) commenters.

 

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Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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