Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 6:07 PM
I'm having a rough week with the Air Force, which is one of our military services.
Here is a note from Air Force Maj. Gen. Charles Dunlap. As he says, he is a longtime friend -- I've known him since he was a pup. But, expressing his personal views, he strongly disagrees with my comment yesterday about a smackdown between a PoW and a JAG:
You know I am a huge fan of yours, but I must say I'm saddened by your blog "Before you shoot your mouth off." Allow me to share some personal views.
I am not defending the former Army JAG (Mr. Kenniff), but it is a mistake to paint all JAGs as "REMFs." The reason isn't hard to discern: re-establishing the rule of law has taken center stage as a key element of our counterinsurgency strategy, and that mission causes JAGs and paralegals to frequently find themselves in extremely dangerous places.
Regardless, I don't think anyone serving in harms' way in Iraq (or Afghanistan) should be mocked based upon mistaken assumptions about their career field or the duties they perform.
I have enormous respect for Shoshana Johnson for her service, and especially for the courage she showed as a POW. And I don't think her career field should matter. She was a food service specialist with a vehicle maintenance company. By the definition your blog seems to use, does that make her a REMF?
Actually, I don't believe that in today's wars there really are rear areas or, for that matter, REMFs as that term was originally conceived.
I don't know Kenniff but I do respect that he spent a year in Iraq (as I also respect the month or so that Johnson spent there). I don't know anything about Kenniff's service, but can you imagine anyone who spent a year in Iraq who did not come under at least indirect fire on more than one occasion? I can't.
More to the point: I recently had the honor of awarding the Purple Heart to one of our young JAG officers who had her knee blown apart by an IED in Iraq (another JAG was also injured in the same attack, albeit less seriously). She also suffered a number of other lacerations, including a serious cut on her face. (As an aside, her mother told me she gave up pursuing a modeling career in New York to become lawyer).
She showed enormous courage both at the time of the attack and subsequently. I was in the AOR that day, and spoke to her shortly after she arrived at the evac hospital at Balad. Despite her injuries, all she wanted to do is give me a MISREP (mission report), and tell me about the courage of others.
Her Veterans Day message (published in an internal JAG Corps online service) is attached. An earlier news report is found here.
People may think she is a REMF, but her particular duties required her to go outside the wire frequently. (Moreover, as I say, she is not the only JAG or paralegal wearing a Purple Heart.)
She has spent months in rehabilitation, and has many more to go. Surgeons saved her leg, and she is very determined to walk again. We are all praying for her.
Tom, she was doing what her country asked her to do, and as a result she spent her 27th birthday in a hospital bed at Brooks Army Medical Center. (Cruelly, while in surgery there for her wounds, her money and her bank card were stolen from her hospital room.) And, unlike Shoshana Johnson, she doesn't have a book deal or Larry King appearances lined up.
She does, however, have a wheelchair. She may be a "REMF" to your readers, but she is a hero to me.
Your friend and fan,
Charlie Dunlap
Steve Thurow/ U.S. Air Force
This really isn't your week, is it? :)
Not at all. I've been learning a lot. Any time I am learning, that's a good time. I'm doing it more publicly than I usually do, but that's OK. I was glad to hear from General Dunlap, and to carry his response.
Best,
Tom
Ricks = R(eal)E(mbarrassed)MF
Kudos to General Dunlap
PERFECT! Maj Gen Dunlap is spot-on and I can think of no one who could have said it better. As a USAF aviator, I confess that I have felt annoyance with the perceived short-sightedness and loss of mission-focus the so-called "REMF" mentality seems to foster among those who tend to the base-level management (Al-Udied is my best example) while the more traditional warfighters fly off into the wild blue to personally snatch freedom from the jaws of tyranny and aggression. In today's fight, it just doesn't quite work that way. We have so many folks in traditional "REMF" roles that are literally in the line of fire performing duties that have phenomenal strategic value and are absolutely essential to "winning the fight". General Odierno said that in Iraq, "the people are the decisive terrain", breaking from the ages-old paradigm of a war won by superior firepower alone. Today’s servicemen and women are facing challenges of which are still being defined by core doctrine. We are operating at a level unlike any point in military history—literally shaping the balance of nations by applying force in a wide variety of asymmetric ways, none of which involve firing a weapon. I will say that I have had the honor of meeting some no-kidding hard-core warriors like Capt Kosek who have more guts, courage, and “true grit” than most of the supposed traditional warfighter-types than I have flown with! If you are going to apply the term REMF, please apply it to a person worthy of the last two letters and otherwise avoid the horrible mistake of generalizing a term across a diverse team of some of the finest men and women America has to offer. Capt Kosek, I salute you, for you are a true warrior, and have my total respect. I am truly honored to serve alongside you … get well soon!
REMFs do and always will exist. You are not going to tell me that a cook, Suppo, etc..is the same as a line officer or grunt. Yes, on occasion REMFs get involved in combat via an ambush on a convoy or shelling of the FOB but for 90% of them all they do is stay on the FOBs the entire tour in OEF or OIF. The REMFs view is also apparent in these areas or why else would reflector belts be mandated in a combat zone? Why would they have speed and DUI check points on base in both OE and OI? Why are people saluting in a combat zone? Why are people taken out of each command/unit of base for camp "improvement" projects? (I saw all of this and it continues) Sorry, while the USAF is a military branch, they have the fewest combat oriented units and most REMFs in all branches are a long way away from Combat Units, that is reality. The JAG corps is not even sure what does and what does not constitute a viloation of the Geneva Conventions more often than not and from some briefs I have seen American Police Officers get more rope than we do in situations, it really depends on the JAG you get. JAGs put in more and more danger? please! The only ones who are in danger are the ones who are at remote outposts for trips or who may, like everyone else on a base, get shelled.
Mr. Rick's, you were 100% right in your view, do not let the FOB Hobbits, the Cubicle Bunnies, etc..act as though they have the same job. They do not. While I respect the service they provide, the job that they do and know we could not exist without them, a serious change is needed in many of the views there esteemed NCO and Officer Corps have. IF they would follow the USMC and train all the folks as Infantry First, we would not be having this conversation, but they don't and the USAF is the worst for preparing people for the fact that they are in the Military.
I have to respectfully disagree with MAJ GEN Dunlap. When he says, "Actually, I don't believe that in today's wars there really are rear areas or, for that matter, REMFs as that term was originally conceived" he is completely wrong. True rear areas do not exist, but safe areas do.
I do not want to denigrate the work of JAG officers. If they leave the wire than they clearly are not REMFs, they are counter-insurgency warriors. Unfortunately, the JAG officer who leaves the wire is the exception not the rule. Browse the ranks of icasualty.org and you will see that maneuver forces make up a greater percentage of casualties then the percentage of maneuver forces deployed. The lower you are in the food chain, meaning the ranks below Major, the much greater chance you have of fighting and dying. Hence, REMFs and FOBBITs exist.
As your initial example said, the infantry grunt has more moral authority then the Captain in the rear. Today is not different. BAF has rarely been under fire. I have heard the same about the Super FOBs in Iraq. Basically, those soldiers who live and work and rarely leave bases with Burger Kings are REMFs.
The soldiers (and Airmen and Sailors and Marines) who live and work and rarely leave bases with Burger Kings are REMFs until they're not. A 240mm shell doesn't care if you're a Fobbit or a snake eater. To paraphrase a letter-writer in Stars and Stripes this week, I can't believe the Air Force is being criticized for being smart enough to figure out a way to support the war while keeping the majority of its forces out of harm's way. Must be the testosterone.
Three cheers for Maj. Gen. Dunlap!
And more importantly, three cheers for Captain Kosek. Her story is truly humbling.
Good story from the modern Major General.
As for Johnson: she should be taken off CNN's call list of experts and commentators, because even though the average viewer can be fooled by the Jerry Springer-esque, finger wagging antics like that, anyone who thinks through soundbites for more than a minute can see through that kind of non-sense.
The "you don't know what its like" victim card doesn't fool all of us.
I know plenty of hero-types who have earned the right to bitch about REMFs. And they would laugh at Johnson's diatribe.
She was out for blood on the JAG guy, she's out for money on the book selling circuit, and she belongs relegated with the "psychics" to the likes of Larry King's show, not elevated to the platform of the respectable ForeignPolicy.com.
Now, that's what *I* call a smackdown!
I particularly liked the cute salute to 'the month or so that Johnson spent there' in Iraq. Blue skies! -- Dan Ford
Don't want to be a d&^k but...
Kosek is no more or less a hero than Johnson. I mean, neither of them are heroes. (this is to say, all things being equal, using what we know from the press...in other words I have no personal knowledge of either).
Johnson was in a misoriented convoy and got captured and somehow had the good sense to keep her mouth shut and head down long enough for the Marines to arrive. OK, I'll give her that she enlisted and went to a warzone. That doesn't mke a hero. She has no business being a talking head for any news agency.
Kosek was in an IED'ed convoy and somehow had the good sense to sit still and let her comrades treat her wounds and await MEDEVAC. Nothing in the article - or Dunlap's misguided accolades - indicated that she did anything 'heroic'. OK, I'll give her that she signed up and went into a warzone. That doesn't mke a hero.
My real point here is that we abuse the term 'hero' far too much. IMHO, you have to actually do something besides be at the wrong place at the wrong time to earn that title. Both Johnson and Kosek fall into that category - wrong place, wrong time. The soldiers who secured the areas or saved Kosek's leg meet the criteria, her not so much.
My father said the Purple Heart was the stupid award. He was glad to never have gotten one in two MACV tours of 'Nam. I've had a Army tour in Iraq, with plenty of outside the wire convoy time, and I ain't no hero because I was fortunate to never have to be.
Finally, there are still plenty of REMFs in OIF/OEF...a superFOB in Iraq can take mortars on one side and the joes at Starbucks on the other side won't even leave their coffee. Dunlap called out a ringer of an example - a JAG who got blowed up - and still did a poor job of it, because she didn't do ANYTHING special aside from getting blowed up [sic]. Dunlap should go back to writing useless missives on how airpower is going to win it all for us.
BTW: I just registered to answer this lousy post. Stop apologizing Tom, you were more right than most of these people give credit, and Dunlap's response was petty and stupid.
What you are saying (if true) would apply to a great number of "stupid award" holders over many generations.
Be careful. It's good you don't want to be a d&^k, but apparently you are (based on your comments).
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes,
even if it's from a Squid:
"There are no extraordinary men...just extraordinary circumstances that ordinary men are forced to deal with."
~ FADM Bull Halsey
No, I'll stand by that one. I don't really think the Purple Heart is a 'good' award either. There is nothing particularly award-worthy of being injured in the line of duty due to enemy action. If there is valorous or heroic action associated with it - then there is likely an appropriate award for that. The Purple Heart is too ripe for abuse as well...witness John Kerry's supposed band-aid-worthy wounds in Vietnam.
And since I am already a d&^k; I'll go one further and say that the Army should do away with CIBs, CABs, and CFMBs as well. They lost their true merit long ago and have become bureaucratic nightmares awarded for the smallest of circumstances. I didn't begrudge the few soldiers we had who earned them (about 20 total) but it was a painful, stupid process for something that pales in comparison to their forefathers who earned those awards in WWII - perhaps the many award holders over many generations you were referring to. (e.g. one bullet hole in the bullet-proof "Pope" glass on your truck = enemy fire).
All that aside - the remainder of my post about Johnson and Kosek remains - their actions (as we know them) were still not heroic.
Oops, one last point, Jessica Lynch (who was with Shoshana Johnson at the time) insists she wasn't a hero and did nothing heroic. Lynch certainly suffered more than her peer did...so maybe Johnson should take her cues from Jessica and disappear quietly thankful to come safely home.
Captain Kosek in Class A is all General Dunlap needed to show. Style compliments dignity and beauty quite well.
"REMF" is not an MOS or duty position. It is a state of mind. Ditto "FOBbit" and "TOC Rat" and others. "REMF" is a term of derision borne not of one's location, but of one's attitude. It's one thing to be in the rear and busting your tail to help the guys closer to the fight. It's quite another to be in the rear and hogging every amenity and doing nothing to help the people who need support. The latter is a REMF, FOBbit, or whatever similar term you want to apply to it.
The general shows poor form here and a distinct lack of class. Not to mention my least favorite quality of military personnel --- trying to make a point by claiming to respect one persons service, finding cute ways to denigrate that service (I respect her month of service...come on Sir) and finally using a wounded vet to make your main argument. General you simply left out a WWII, Hitler reference.
Johnson had some right to strike back at the JAG officer on CNN -- hey if you're a JAG officer and you don't know who you are arguing with shame on you. He opened the door of service and she took the opportunity to wag her finger. Amusing television I suppose, but it does little to distinguish the value of support specialities, REMFs and combat personnel. Me thinks the general probably knows this, but he just wanted to highlight that an Air Force female JAG has spilled blood and darn the boys/girls in blue are in the fight too.
See Tom's previously correct post questioning whether the USAF is a glorified boy-scout troop with the best fighter jets in the world or a military organization.
By the way -- I must be the only one who thinks the JAG officer dismissed her because she was black, a women and fairly crude when he questioned her knowledge of service in Iraq.
Sean Rossi
USA
You were right, do not give into the REMFs and FOB Hobbits
Mr. Ricks,
You were 100% right, do not take back a thing you said. Many of us rely on you for straight talk and I think you have a pretty good insiders view into the Military. Do not let one case of someone getting hurt take away from the overall view that we do indeed have REMF's, the the Military does need improvement in basic military skills and leadership and that it is ok to call someone out on these things.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
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