This speaks for itself, so take it away, Lt. Col. Kelly "K Mart" Martin. She's a veteran KC-135 pilot who recently commanded the U.S. air base in Baghdad and is now a colleague of mine at CNAS, the little think tank that could:

A short time ago, the host of this blog deemed it appropriate to categorize the Air Force as different from the other military service-"Another of the great things about CNAS is our military fellows program, which brings in smart officers from the military services, as well as the Air Force."  As the Air Force Fellow here at CNAS, I found this curious.  Upon further conversation with Mr. Ricks, it was clear that he did in fact view the Air Force as not being equal to the other services because of its lack of "military ethos," an assertion based primarily on the fact that Airmen don't face the same risk as soldiers of being injured or killed and, as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan demonstrate, it's really the Army that are the winners of America's conflict and defender of its national security.

My first reaction was that the families of the 81 Airmen who have given their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan -- not to mention those Airmen lost in the wars of the 20th century -- would take great exception to the assertion that their loved one didn't have a "military ethos" because of the type of uniform he or she was wearing.  But it's the underlying value projection that only by shedding blood makes one truly a ‘brother in arms' that I find troubling.

There's no disagreement that the current fight in Iraq and Afghanistan is ground-centric and that airpower plays a supporting role. But as retired Army Lieutenant General Barno said in 2004, "While it takes boots on the ground to win a counter-insurgency fight, it takes airpower to move, supply, and protect those boots on the ground." In this capacity, airpower's combat effectiveness is best measured in the lives saved.

The Air Force Predator and other ISR assets habitually provide commanders and decision-makers with real time information of enemy movements and high value targets' (HVT) locations. Air Force flown satellites provide critical communication, weather and the vital GPS capabilities to the CENTCOM theater of operation and beyond. All of which enables increased situational awareness and more effective maneuverability, foundational to operations on the ground and significantly reducing risk.

Direct support of ground fire teams has come through precision airdrops which provide critical resupply in remote spaces of Afghanistan as well as precision air strikes that eliminate enemy HVTs and provide close air support (CAS).  Members of the 101st Airborne Division confirmed CAS's risk-reducing capacity when performing maneuvers through hostile areas stating "When CAS is on station, it greatly reduces the threat. If we do get hit, only a handful of enemy troops will be brave enough to fire knowing aircraft are overhead."

When IEDs began to kill coalition forces in mass, the CENTCOM commander turned to the Air Force with its intratheater airlift to ensure continuous logistic lines and mitigate a significant loss of life. Last year alone, the aircrews of our Air Force C-130s and C-17s kept over 3,500 convoys off the road and 8,500 people out reach of an IED. Additionally, it was the Air Force that transported over 2,700 Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles and 8,300 vehicle armor kits to the AOR in minimal time -- vehicles that are saving lives and limbs every day.

The Air Force's participation isn't limited to the space and air commons. Over 6,000 Airmen are serving on the ground in provincial reconstruction teams, as convoy security details or on explosive ordnance disposal teams. A role Airmen term Agile Combat Support which is expected to continue to grow as our military participates in greater Cooperative Security Agreements around the world.

The most significant advancement of the joint fight is in the care of our and our coalition's wounded. If someone receives an injury anywhere in the AOR, getting that person to the right care becomes the number one priority. Once at the combat hospital, Air Force mobility assets stand ready to move the individual anywhere in the world, resulting in an unprecedented 99% survival rate. One example is a Marine who suffered burns and a severe eye injury from an IED explosion. Thanks to a C-17 and multiple air refuelings, 30 hours after the time of the explosion, the Marine landed at Brooks Army Medical Center, the only hospital with the necessary combined resources for his injuries, saving his eyesight.

Simply put, without the Air Force, the numbers of lives, both civilian and military, that would have been sacrificed in the past 8 years would be exponentially higher. As Secretary Gates recently said, "Without [the Air Forces'] contribution in the skies, and in many cases on the ground, America's war effort would simple grind to a halt."

and this doesn't even take into account the 35 fighter aircraft and 8 tanker aircraft on 24/7 alert here in the United States, ready to respond to another 9/11 scenario; or the hundreds of Airmen sitting 24-hour shifts in our nuclear missile silos enabling the US's strategic nuclear deterrence -- all ready to pull the trigger if directed but thankfully, have never had to. Not to mention the thousands of hours flown to bring much needed humanitarian supplies to the victims of the 2004 tsunami or the Pakistani earthquake or Hurricane Katrina.

It's easy to understand how the contributions of the Air Force to our national security efforts could be overshadowed. After all, how do you capture a non-event? Pictures of empty C-17s without flag-draped coffins or convoys that don't get hit by an IED don't make the front page of newspapers. I'm proud of the unique contributions of today's Airmen and I'm proud of the capabilities that we bring to the counter-insurgency fight that keep our ground forces from being killed. And if saving lives means taking the criticism that the Air Force lacks a "military ethos," well I can live with that.  The question is, can the Army?

What say you, mateys? I was joking in the reference she cites at the beginning, but I do think that the Air Force is the most corporate of our armed forces and the least military in its feel. I think this is because it doesn't fight on the ground, and also because its enlisted don't control firepower. (But both those are true of the Navy, the most traditional of the services.) I also think that the Air Force may be, in cultural terms, the most "American" of the services, reflecting our culture more than do the Army, Navy and Marines.    

 

JPWREL

5:17 PM ET

November 9, 2009

Just a few random

Just a few random thoughts:

Living among pilots and aircrew from Davis-Montham AF Base my impression is that they are totally professional and technically competent in knowing and doing their jobs. American AF pilots are invariably first rate across the board and while they may not have the mystic aura of ‘naval aviators’ we are lucky to have every one of them.

My very subjective view is that both the Army and particularly the Air Force lack a distinctive ‘military bearing’ among most of its personnel. All the services, even to a surprisingly small extent the Marines seem to have adopted a rather informal relaxed standard of discipline on and off base. In my years I have seen British troops who are smart beyond description and Israeli troops who are even more informal (almost slovenly) than our own and they both are outstanding soldiers whom we could learn much from. So maybe as Americans landing somewhere between the bearing of the Brigade of Guards and the Golani Brigade is a good fit for us.

Of more immediate concern is that U. S. Army and AF personnel are often overweight and out of shape and this includes many combat forces. I know the services are all concerned about the impact this national epidemic of obesity is having upon their personnel, but my guess would be that it would be easier for them to attack that problem if disciplinary standards were tightened up a bit.

Even my sons SEAL outfit while fanatically focused upon physical conditioning, and excelling in all their exotic duties seem to possess a certain informality about uniforms, and officer-enlisted relations, which considering the Navy’s traditionalism I find rather baffling. But I suppose all this is just another reflection of our American society and contains in it a multitude of both good and bad points.

 

ADMIRAL

5:22 PM ET

November 9, 2009

Lt. Col. Kelly "K Mart" Martin

How do you justify the Air Force's complete and total failure to defend this country on 9-11-01? How many USAF officers were fired and court martialed for the worst military failure in US History? The USAF completely let this country down on that horrible day. Dereliction of duty and gross incompetence come to mind at the least.

 

RPM

12:58 AM ET

November 10, 2009

once again...

this argument has run aground on the rocks and shoals of logic.

It is hardly worth the typing, but it is obvious to just about all thinking sentient beings that this criticism is unjustified. If you want to scream at the generation of national command authority (from both parties) who chose to allow budget realities rather than notional threats define the close-in defenses of the nation, go right ahead. But charging military officers with such venom ignores the realities involved in scrambling military aircraft to intercept a threat that had never before existed in the very tight time span that existed that awful morning.

 

ADMIRAL

3:59 AM ET

November 10, 2009

Excuses Excuses Excuses

Make all the excuses for failure and ineptitude you want to make. This is exactly why the US military has failed our country in the two wars since 911, as well as the troops under their command. Everyone has an excuse for failure in the military these days. Where is the accountability of our senior officers? There is none. Failure has become acceptable as well as rewarded in our military, and people like you defend it with teary sanctimony. Our senior military officers have rewarded us with the 911 attack success and two lost wars at a great cost to this nation.
Here is an example of senior officer Orwellian spin in the above article, " and this doesn't even take into account the 35 fighter aircraft and 8 tanker aircraft on 24/7 alert here in the United States, ready to respond to another 9/11 scenario." Look how that was worded and come to your own conclusion. Todays senior officers are the worst in our entire history. Their results on 911 and the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan prove that they are a bunch of inept losers not worthy to lead our brave and selfless enlisted men and women whom have suffered more than any other army in our history.

 

TOM RICKS

3:41 AM ET

November 10, 2009

Admiral

You are way over your quota, man. You are not banned yet--but please limit yourself to one essential post a day.
thanks,
Tom

 

FORAC

5:28 PM ET

November 9, 2009

Right Criticism, Wrong Branch

Your ire should be directed at the Navy, not the USAF, for not fully stepping up the plate re: GWOT/Long War.

I say that as a Navy veteran in a smattering of unconventional assignments and now as someone inside the circle, if you will, during the AfPak strategy review.

The Air Force contributes mightily to the GWOT/Long War every single day. There are many facets of that contribution, but PJs/AFSOC, C-130/C-9/C-5's, UAV's, and especially AC-130s and Warthogs immediately come to mind.

Let's not forget about Manas or K2, without which we wouldn't be having any kind of strategic review of anything re: AfPak, because we would have lost in 2001/2002.

Show the USAF their due. You want to tear someone apart? Start with the Navy, who stood up Riverine squadrons in a laughable attempt to "prove" they can do UW/COIN and now refuse to fund them and their other "unconventional" assets.

Back in my lane.

FORAC
http://takenforaction.blogspot.com

 

ADMIRAL

7:05 PM ET

November 9, 2009

Why the Navy?

It was the USAF that let those planes fly into the WTC and Pentagon on 9-11-2001. The Air Force let this country get attacked on 9-11. The events of 9-11 prove the Air Force is run by idiots and losers. Anyone can fly a plane. The 911 attackers proved that!

 

STARBUCK

8:48 PM ET

November 9, 2009

Are you suggesting that the

Are you suggesting that the most brilliant and most flawlessly-executed conspiracy in the history of mankind was pulled off...by government employees? This intrigues me...

 

ADMIRAL

11:16 PM ET

November 9, 2009

What?

Where are you coming from? I'm not implying anything that has to do with the planning or personel invoved in the attacks. My comments are focused on the complete and absolute failure of the USAF to defend America on 9-11. I'll even throw in the inept handling of atomic weapons a few years ago. The USAF is being run by inept idiots. Their officer corps has become a bad joke over the last 20 years. Air Force officers are good at everything except defending America from air attacks. They failed and a lot of people died.

 

OOFDA

6:07 PM ET

November 9, 2009

Air Force and Military Ethos

Perhaps part of the problem of perception is how the Air Force sold itself for many years. As a person coming of age to enter the service in the late 60's, I recall recruiters overtly saying and recruiting messages covertly espressing the message that the Air Force was somehow "different" than the other services and that you didn't have to do all the 'military stuff.' There was a good selling point, as it was very, very tough to enlist in the Air Force in the late 60's. I ended up going to Annapolis and being commissioned in the Marines, and recall hearing vestiges of this message from Air Force officers through the years. I recall that in law school, one retired USAF colonel bragged that he had been a 'manager'-- nothing about leadership. Having had an uncle who flew 25 USAAF B-17 missions from Britain in WWII when that was a rarity to accomplish, I knew how courageous USAAF/USAF aircrew were and are. However, aside from the aircrew, the Air Force seemed to sell itself along the lines of a corporation-- and that we didn't do all that military stuff. There were other things through the years that fortified this impression-- like the lamented uniform change in the early ninties that made the uniform look more like an airline uniform- or at least Coast Guard Auxilliary. Also look at the recent situation where SecDef Gates fired senior USAF leadership for a multitude of reasons- one of which was the lack of support for UAV/UCAVs in Afghanistan. So if those of us of a certain age harbor questions about the ethos of the Air Force as a service, the reason for that is the very message that many in the Air Force put out for years.

 

DRLAKE777

6:29 PM ET

November 9, 2009

I agree with your diagnosis.

I found Tom's joke funny, because I spent my time in the Army thinking the Air Force was the least "military" of the armed services. I do think the AF cultivated this aura deliberately, so if current members have an issue with it they need to look to their predecessors when finding fault.

The AF also has had a bad habit of defining its missions rather narrowly, and emphasizing glamorous tasks like strategic bombing or aerial combat over other missions that may be more important in most circumstances like flying "trash haulers" and providing Close Air Support for us ground-pounders.

 

STARBUCK

9:00 PM ET

November 9, 2009

I agree. This was the point

I agree. This was the point of Tom's remark--it was intended as a joke. I've been in a joint task force with plenty of USAF personnel, and their contributions certainly aren't to be trivialized.

Nevertheless, they have gained a reputation--maybe somewhat deserved--as the "country club" service. Just look at (what used to be) Pope Air Force Base and Fort Bragg if you doubt that the Air Force has greater creature comforts. This has long been a standing joke within the services.

Additionally, I have to agree that they are the least--to steal another poster's thunder--the "least military" of the services, in terms of organizational culture.

No one doubts the sacrifice given by airmen in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

PETERINDC

6:16 PM ET

November 9, 2009

Army Air Corps

The reason the Air Force's personnel structure is so out of place compared to other services is because it should really a component of the Army. As the Navy has the Marine Corps, The Army should have the Air Corps as a supporting element. That would probably help change some of the corporate climate of the Air Force, while allowing the Air Corps to have the right incentives to chose weaponry that is relevant to the post-911 Armed Forces.

 

TYRTAIOS

9:11 PM ET

November 9, 2009

A slight nuance: the Navy

A slight nuance: the Navy does not have the Marine Corps. The Corps is a seperate branch, under the Department of the Navy, and the Commandant is a sitting member of the JCS.

The official mission of the Marine Corps is established in the National Security Act of 1947, amended in 1952. Marines are trained, organized and equipped for offensive amphibious employment and as a force in readiness - unfortunately these days - amphibious they ain't. Nor do they possess the heavy lift capability to truely execute manuever from the sea.

The point is - if the Air Force is screwed-up than the other services are certainly Hogan's Goat.

 

PHIL RIDDERHOF

6:22 PM ET

November 9, 2009

military ethos

While it seems that LtCol. Martin has given a well-written and complete response, I don't think it answered the implied question in Rick's comment. The question was not about performance and contribution, it was about the link between the risk to personal safety in performing duties and an ethos that can be described as "military."

In the first place, The Air Force is different. As the newest service, it took some actions that set it apart. It likes to assert airmen think differently, with an "air-minded" perspective that the other service personnel, even aviators of other services, don't have. I won't argue with that. I don't think they are correct a lot of the time, but they certainly do have a different perspective. I don't think that has anything to do with having or lacking a military ethos, however.

I don’t think military ethos is really related to uniforms and salutes. In terms of discipline incidents, does the Air Force supposed “lax” attitude translate into more trouble? I don’t think so. Maybe they can recruit and shape their force to avoid that (I think that many of the issues surrounding more relaxed attitudes between enlisted and officer is that they have drawn much closer to one another in terms of education and capabilities—it is not a matter of separate social classes).

The Air Force, among all the services, has come the closest to achieving its stated service-specific missions while reducing the risk to its personnel (and equipment). Isn't this what we would all wish for? in WWII, the life expectancy of a bomber crewman was less than an infantryman in Europe. Based on its mission and unique domain, the Air Force can do for its crewman what I as a Marine could only wish I could do for my Marines. However, land combat does not allow that, and to have the force remain effective.

Is a military ethos associated with assumption of personal risk, or issues of mission, duty and purpose? I think the Air Force is very good at what it is supposed to do. Where the rub comes in is that its impact on any conflict is limited by the unique nature of that conflict. What I would actually worry about is that the Air Force, in terms of its ability to dispense violence at very little risk, could be the service with the strongest “military ethos” and that’s not always a good thing.

Phil Ridderhof USMC

 

PAUL G

7:26 PM ET

November 9, 2009

Don’t be so hard on the Air

Don’t be so hard on the Air Force. While it’s been a few wars since air superiority has been disputed heavily, as a ground pounder in Vietnam, I had plenty of occasions to thank the fine pilots of the Air Force. When we needed help, seeing Phantoms inbound with their canisters of Liquid Jesus, rockets and bombs was always a heart-warmer. We had several occasions to make use of the services of their gunships too and their arrival was definitely appreciated. Their FACs dawdling around in O-1s made us think nice thoughts and on the few occasions when we were lucky enough to get an A-1 Skyhawk “Sandy” for close air support, we felt a very warm fuzzy feeling, believe me. Add to that the Search and Rescue crews and a lot of other stuff, and the Air Force was a very much appreciated part of our world.

The Navy, not so much. Aside from naval aviators and SEALs, and corpsmen who hung out with the Marines (and naval gunfire on one occasion — now that was a show worth watching), they mostly didn’t make an impression on me. Since then, I’ve kind of gotten the impression that the Navy is made up mostly of glorified yachtsmen who view the world as 3/4 water created especially for their amusement, with the other 25% being made up of land which interferes with proper navigation and contains pesky locals who are always shooting at one another and whose only saving grace is that they provide ports of call.

 

SEANK100

7:31 PM ET

November 9, 2009

USAF Military Ethos

@JPWREL - It was my understanding that elite forces - like SEALs - traditionally are less concerned with rank. The nature of their missions requires a focus on ability and coordination that supercedes rank.

@Lt. Col. Martin - w/r/t the military failure on 09/11/01, are you suggesting the Air Force should have shot down the aircraft before they were able to complete their missions? My understanding is that there weren't clear orders in place that would have provided the pilots the directive they needed. I have no doubt you're better informed than I am on this, but I just hadn't heard this claim before. Can you direct me to the source(s) upon which you're basing this?

 

PAUL81

6:13 AM ET

November 10, 2009

I think you mean..

I think your second question was directed at "admiral," who titled his claim of 9/11 Air Force failure as "Lt. Col. Kelly Martin," but from what I could see this was not a claim by Lt. Col. Martin. I also was confused for a second.

 

JASON SIGGER

8:21 PM ET

November 9, 2009

Stop Digging

"I also think that the Air Force may be, in cultural terms, the most "American" of the services, reflecting our culture more than do the Army, Navy and Marines."

When you're in a hole, Mr. Ricks, stop digging. First of all, if you've seen "Stripes," then you'll realize that the American fighting Soldier is the epitome of American culture. The Air Force worships at the altar of technology, which puts them above the mean. The Navy is away from home too much, which makes them great thinkers (and again, above the mean), and the Marine Corps is just too elite to eve consider as a cultural mean.

But we're all good Americans.

 

DMDENNIS

1:40 AM ET

November 10, 2009

I think you might have missed

I think you might have missed what Mr. Ricks meant. Culturally, most of America would find far more in common with the way the Air Force conducts itself when compared to the way the Marine Corps conducts itself. That doesn't mean that Marines aren't upholding less-worthy values - in fact it could be argued that the Marines value their traditional ways far more than an institution like the Air Force - just that the more relaxed and comfort-oriented posture of the Air Force enterprise is far more representative of our entire nation as a whole. It really shouldn't be surprising when you compare the level that the different services go to "reprogram" their recruits/trainees into the mold of their given military service. Air Force BMT doesn't take the average American civilian as far away from their old lives as 13 weeks at Paris Island. (I'm in the Air Force and I have no problem saying that.)

 

TOM RICKS

3:45 AM ET

November 10, 2009

Thanks!

It is reassuring to know that there are people out there reading this blog who get exactly what I am trying to say.
Thanks,
Tom

 

STEPHEN CASTNER

12:54 AM ET

November 10, 2009

Air Force

After four years of service in the communications center of the 20th Air Force, Cheyenne, Wyoming, my son returned to university and, after 9/11 enlisted in the Wisconsin Army National Guard. He was killed by an EFP in July, 2006, on MSR Tampa in Iraq while on convoy security duty.

Due to apparent inter-service rivalry, Air Force unmanned aircraft were not used to secure MSR Tampa, the main supply route into Iraq, against IEDs and EFPs. National Guard soldiers on convoy security duty were left naked.

More to the point, the Army Transportation Corps chose to run convoys through unsecured routes, a tactic that had not been employed since the Civil War 1870s Indian wars.

LTC Martin points out that, "Last year alone, the aircrews of our Air Force C-130s and C-17s kept over 3,500 convoys off the road and 8,500 people out reach of an IED." Had the Army Transportation Corps sought to employ Air Force logistics in Iraq, hundreds of soldiers who died while securing shipments of Baskin Robbins ice cream to the American embassy in Baghdad would be alive and hundreds others would be mentally and physically healthy.

The only distinction between airmen and soldiers is a testosterone rush, the equivalent of drawing a line between the Army mental health soldiers who were killed at Ft. Hood and the Army trigger pullers. To the contrary, America requires all of the technology that the Air Force can muster.

Stephen L. Castner
Father of CPL Stephen W. Castner, 1-121st, Wisconsin National Guard, killed in action, July 24, 2006, MSR Tampa, near Camp Cedar, Tallil, Iraq.
Cedarburg, Wisconsin
slcastner@ameritech.net
Cell: 414-531-4300

The first, the supreme, the most far-reaching act of judgment that the statesman and commander have to make is to establish…the kind of war on which they are embarking; neither mistaking it for, nor trying to turn it into, something that is alien to its nature. This is the first of all strategic questions and the most comprehensive.
Carl von Clausewitz, On War

 

SHANE HUANG

1:12 AM ET

November 10, 2009

90% of the Air Force is about as "military" as KBR

I don't want to downplay the importance of the Air Force or their contributions in this war. But I can't really understand an Airman who takes offense at this kind of joke. Even within services people crack jokes about others not being "military" enough. Infantry guys on radio duty get made fun of, and support guys (REMFs, POGs, Fobbits, etc.) grow accustomed to catching some ridicule from time to time.

By Lt. Col. Martin's measure, civilian contractors are as military as the Air Force. And I can agree with that characterization. Frankly, if you are performing a job that is also performed by civilians, then you are not very "military." In my case, I only did about 2 months of "military" work. I'm actually more proud of my contributions during my other 10 months of deployment, but I don't consider that time period to be very "military," and will never make the claims of myself that Lt. Col. Martin is making for her service branch.

So yeah - I'd characterize KC-135 pilots as more military than my job, but honestly I could only say that for about 10% of the Air Force.

 

COW COOKIE

1:38 AM ET

November 10, 2009

“Military ethos” isn’t

“Military ethos” isn’t necessarily a good thing and “corporate culture” isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It’s context sensitive, even in the armed services.

In “The Soldier and the State,” Samuel Huntington contrasted the officer’s role of managing violence with the warrior ethos of the enlisted (and “nonprofessional” officers like those in the Japanese military). This was the natural progression of the ever-increasing complexity of warfare, which demanded a specialized, apolitical military class.

Perhaps the modern-day Air Force is just be seeing this trend in full flower. Its mission and capabilities may allow, reward and even demand a corporate culture instead of a military ethos, while the other armed services' may not.

I don’t see anything wrong with this. They do, after all, fulfill very different functions.

 

RUBBER DUCKY

12:02 PM ET

November 10, 2009

My Favorite Air Force

The foundation of the US Air Force lies in the theory of Guilio Duhet that strategic bombing would be the decisive factor in waging and winning modern war. Duhet came out of WW-I. The US Air Force came out of WW-II, even though Paul Nitze's exhaustive Strategic Bombing Survey did not find that the massive bombing raids of Germany and, later, Japan were in fact decisive.

Since then, and since the heyday of SAC and Curtis Lemay, the Air Force has put forward some variant of strategic bombing as the silver bullet for armed conflict, but never with results matching rhetoric.

I offer a simple syllogism: the Air Force is founded on the theory that strategic bombing is decisive; strategic bombing has been proved not decisive; therefore the Air Force is a service without a mission.

The US Air Force is better described as The Bureau of Manned Aircraft That Don't Belong To The Army, The Navy, Or The Marine Corps. It's mission in law — conduct prompt and sustained combat operations in the air — is meaningless: charges, mines, and torpedoes aside, most lethal ordnance arrives by air.

I live near Cape Canaveral, operated by the Air Force. Almost the entire workload at the Cape is carried by civilian contractors, as has been since Day One. An Air Force study said that the Air Force contingent involved with the Cape could and should be about 100 strong. It runs closer to 3000. That's your Air Force: a small cadre of genuine mission people and a large bureaucracy taking in each other's washing. The pilots and air-crewmen are good, as they are in every Service. The rest? Bureaucrats dedicated to perpetuating their own bureaucracy.

Time to put the Air Force back into the Army and let its people and budgets assume a more isostatic relationship with the other Services and within the national-defense mission.

 

ANDY

2:32 PM ET

November 12, 2009

Strategic Bombing?

If you really think that is the AF raison d'erte, then I have to say you haven't been paying attention since the early 1990's.

Also, the primary Air Force mission for most of its history was strategic nuclear bombing. That kind of strategic bombing is so utterly decisive that avoiding its use remains national policy.

And really, arguing about which service is more "martial" or more relevant or more whatever is like arguing about which is more important - the bullet or the gun the fires the bullet. The reality is that our military is a joint force that requires all the services for mission execution.

 

AFLOGGIE

3:42 PM ET

November 10, 2009

Focusing on Taking Care of the Trops is Bad?

The Air Force emphasizes taking care of each other as one of its highest priorities--embraced in the Wingman concept. As a result, we (I've been an Airman for 32+ years) are used taking some (usually) good natured ribbing from our sister services about being "soft" and less military. What is interesting is after you get past the posturing, many of the other service members admire how the Air Force takes care of its troops. I remember dozens of conversations in our Kabul safe house day room with senior Army & Marine officers who, after the requisite put-downs, said given the choice they'd always prefer temporary duty with the Air Force because the quality of life was uniformly better. It reflected I think that the Air Force chooses to put more resources toward what could be called "creature comfort" (hard billets as opposed to tents, hot showers, air conditioning, etc.). What was fascinating to me is that when I pointed out to these field graders that they, as future senior leaders could focus on devoting resources on their soldiers or Marines quality of life, they, to a person, said "the Army" (or Marines) would never let them do that. When I pointed out they were "The Army" (or the Marines) they admitted that culturally their service wouldn't support diverting resources to quality of life.

In the Joint fight, different services bring different capabilities to bear--with admittedly varying degrees of effectiveness. The capabilities of the Air Force in Air, Space, and Cyber Space are unique and different from the other services--we ought not to apologize for that. If that sets Airman apart, we are secure enough in our prowess to take some ribbing (good natured or not).

The Airmen, civilians, and contractors I've worked with in the Air Force since the beginning of the Carter Administration have been, with few exceptions, professionals committed to the success of the mission sets given them. We have thousands of these great Americans engaged in our country's war-fighting every day. In the current fight, we have thousands of my fellow Air Force Logisticians engaged in supporting combat operations, convoys, training, mentoring & teaching Iraqi & Afghan military & police as well as handling the "traditional" service and joint logistics missions like delivering fuel, ammunition, and other sustainment commodities to US Forces and our allies and coaltion partners.

We Airman can take the good natured barbs of Mr Ricks. We know we bring different capabilities to the fight. We don't apologize for taking care of our Airmen and their families.

 

JMCURRIER

3:59 PM ET

November 10, 2009

Is the Air Force simply redundant?

LTC Martin persuades that air power and support is necessary in today's wars and will likely be in future wars, but that's not a sufficient justification for the U.S. Air Force. What I am not persuaded of, necessarily, is why the Air Force must be the branch to execute these functions. The most powerful air force in the world is the U.S. Air Force; the second most powerful air force in the world is...the U.S. Navy; and the third most powerful air force in the world is the U.S. Marine Corps. Couldn't air power and support--as necessary as it is--be the function of another branch just as well?

 

ANDY

2:35 PM ET

November 12, 2009

Sure...

...but the same could be said for any service. Why is the Air Force more expendable than the Marine Corps?

 

DANINFOWAR

4:32 PM ET

November 10, 2009

Need an Air Force?

Responding to the argument "why do we need an air force?" has become a bit of a cottage industry, to which I have made (maybe more than) my share of comments. But having served 22 years in the USAF, had my finger on that "nuclear trigger" that LtCol Martin cites, and having written airpower doctrine and participated in the asessment of airpower (I was the division chief for the 1993 Gulf War AirPower Assessment) I think I can comment here. The question "who needs an air force?" is best asked of those who DONT have one, and who invariably wish they did. It's interesting that the photo that accompanies Tom's piece is of an airlifter being refueled, not a fighter/bomber...we are a global force with reach and responsibilities to match. I think it's close to a truism of modern warfare that no country that won the air battle lost the war--and before you try to argue "Vietnam", think back to what the situation was in 1972 when we left...American airpower absolutely smashing the North Vietnamese offensive, so as of when we left, the war was a stalemate..."lost" after that airpower was no longer available. Those who can look at the world only via the lens of 2003-2009 and in The Sandbox need to expand their past vision to include 1991 and 1999, and extend their forward vision to....who knows. But if it involves hostilities/war with a certain Asian country, there will be a LOT more Air Force (and Navy/USMC) involvement than there will be from the Army. Each war is different and unique...and the next one is unlikely to be the last/current one.
one or two quick responses: to "Rubber Ducky"...go back and read your history and you'll find the assessment of the post-WWII USSBS was that strategic bombing "was decisive"; but if you mean "decisive" as in "won the war all by itself", nothing did that. I've always loved Ike's quote from standing on the bluff overlooking the Normandy beaches as a flight of AAF fighters went overhead; one of the staff officers said "glad their ours", and Ike said "if they weren't we wouldn't be standing here", meaning that the invasion would have been impossible.
I could go on but there's work to be done.

 

SMUDIN

4:58 PM ET

November 10, 2009

Air Force "military ethos"

While Lt. Col. Martin has listed many significant contributions that the USAF has made to OIF/OEF, I don't think she really spoke to the issue of whether or not the Air Force has the same "military ethos" as the Army, Navy or Marine Corps.

I'm an Army Reserve Lt. Col. who's deployed to Iraq twice as part of a Civil Affairs battalion. During my most recent deployment (2008), our battalion headquarters was staffed by Army, Navy and Air Force personnel, in fairly even proportions. While I wouldn't say that the USAF doesn't have a military ethos, the military ethos exhibited by the USAF Officers & Airmen in our unit was certainly very different from that exhibited by the Army and Navy.

The attitude of the Navy personnel was one of "I'd rather not be here (on the ground with the Army), but we're here, so what needs to be done?". On the other hand, the Air Force personnel made constant reference to the Memorandum of Understanding between the Army and Air Force and would obstinately refuse any missions or instructions that were not, in their opinion, expressly directed by that agreement. We (only half) jokingly referred to one of the Air Force senior NCOs as their "shop steward"

 

HUNGRY J0E

3:15 AM ET

November 12, 2009

This comment by smudin hits

This comment by smudin hits the nail on the head for me...

In January 2005 I was a liaison officer to the Royal Thai Air Force for tsunami relief efforts in Phuket. Although a US Navy submarine officer, there was such a need for personnel to react to the crisis that we were thrown into whatever positions required filling regardless of background. The Phuket airfield was a dual use civilian/military airfield. My responsibility was managing foreign airlift... mainly coordinating incoming flights and cargo. It was all on the job training and long hours; I was the only US military member working amongst a Thai detachment of about 40. After being there for a week or so, I got a call from an Air Force officer at Hickam Air Force Base in Hawaii. He was part of an air logistics team, trained to fulfill the role that I was stepping in to do, and they were preparing to come to Phuket. The conversation went something like this:

"We're getting ready to head out to Phuket. We need to know how things are going over there so we can take over your position smoothly."

"Great! It's pretty long hours here... I've been working round the clock, but often things come up when I'm headed to or from HQ or at a meeting. I think sending about four guys here to take this job would be right... a morning and afternoon shift of two people each should be able to handle everything."

"You don't understand. We're a team of 24. We have our own command center, load teams, handling equipment, etc."

"You can't bring that many people here... this is a dual use airfield. The military facilities are already being fully used by the Thai's, not to mention you'll overshadow their effort. We're here in a support role only. What we need here about 4 people experienced in a air logistics, flight scheduling, etc. Do you have those guys on your team?"

"Yes of course. But we're a complete package. We deploy as a unit."

"The Thai's will never accept that large of a footprint and you'll duplicate what they are already doing. Just cut loose the schedules guys to coordinate."

"It's all or nothing. Do you want us there or not?"

So they ended up staying in Hawaii. I thought it was a horribly short sighted decision... these guys having specialized training but being unable to actually use their skills because the situation didn't meet their preordained vision.

Later in my career I transitioned over to naval aviation. Training and operating in joint Air Force/Navy commands has only reinforced my impression of the Air Force as an inefficient, inflexible organization that frequently loses sight of the big picture... Excellent training, excellent personnel support, insanely bureaucratic.

 

RUBBER DUCKY

5:00 PM ET

November 10, 2009

Airpower

Thank God for strategic airpower. Otherwise we would not have won as decisively as we did in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

I love the quote from Bill Clinton 12 March 1993:

"When word of a crisis breaks out in Washington, it's no accident that the first question that comes to everyone's lips is: 'Where's the nearest carrier?'"

 

RUBBER DUCKY

5:13 PM ET

November 10, 2009

Dupe - delete

delete

 

MAJORMARGINAL

5:41 PM ET

November 10, 2009

Rifle match

At a rifle match years ago an AF Captain/pilot called me a broom operator.

 

BLUE42

8:04 PM ET

November 10, 2009

I am a Marine currently

I am a Marine currently deployed to Afghanistan. There's no question the Air Force provides essential services that the military would not be able to operate without. I would say, however, that most Marines resent the Air Force on some level and accord Airmen much less respect that we would soldiers or Navy SEALS. If Marines percieve that they are sacrificing more than Airmen, they will resent it. Here are some of the issues I have:

1. The Air Force does 4 month tours.
2. The Air Force spends too much money on gold courses/chow halls and not enough on AC-130's/CAS training.
3. On a related note, why does the Air Force have less than 30 AC-130's and not 400 or so? All they are is cargo planes with cameras and guns strapped on them.
4. Also on a related note, I am a JTAC. I can say definitively that there is a huge quality difference between Air Force pilots and Navy and Marine pilots as far as CAS proficiency. Yes, Air Force CAS has saved many lives, but Navy and Marine pilots are on a totally different level.
5. The Air Force used to be even worse at CAS until it killed large numbers of Marines and British soldiers during OIF I and realized CAS couldn't be completely ignored. One only has to watch to flight recorder of the A-10 section attacking British tanks as they wonder aloud "Why the Iraqi's have orange rockets on their tanks".
6. The Chief of Staff of the Air Force (since fired), unlike the CNO, used to complain regularly about having to provide the ground enablers that LtCol Martin cited as providing valuable service in Iraq.
7. Airmen flying Predators from Nevada get credit for being in combat. That is absurd.
7. Airmen just have a really annoying sense of entitlement. You would think they would have the decency to be at least a little embarassed at the fact that they have more creature comforts, shorter deployments, less dangerous jobs and especially because they get credit for being in combat while never leaving Nevada, but any time any of these issues get brought up, it seems like there is a blue wall of denial. "We're just like you!" No, you're not. Are you essential to the war effort? Yes. You are not the same as us. I will make a few exceptions for people in the Air Force with dangerous jobs i.e. EOD and MEDEVAC helos. The rest of you might as well work for KBR. The bottom line is that the for many years, maybe since its creation, the Air Force has, at its most senior levels, set its course based on what its generals think is cool (fighters and stealth bombers) rather than what the US needs (CAS, transport, computer stuff). I think things have begun to change since Gates canned the COS and Secretary, but all the issues described above still apply.

 

AIR FORCE BLUE

8:41 AM ET

November 11, 2009

Attention Mr. Castner, Blue 42

Mr Castner, thank you for commenting and I offer my sincere condolences for your son. No words of mine will ever take away the pain of losing your son but today, on Memorial/Armistice day, the thought of your son's sacrifice is something that we should all take pause and reflect. I'm deployed currently and I'm typing this note after just returning from a ceremony in which members of the coalition paused at the 11th minute, of the 11th day, of the 11th month,to reflect and honor those who sacrificed all...like your son. Again, sorry for your loss.

To Blue 42. I'm an Airman and I see my sole mission in life is to support the joint fight. In this COIN fight, my mission is to support every Joe going outside the wire day in and day out. You don't know me from the next Airman but I assure you that there are a lot of Airmen like me; perhaps not all, but enough. We're all trying to get a lot better in this COIN fight but while I'm ever so critical of some of the things we should be doing better, I can honestly say that my Service takes it very personally when one of the team is hurt and either we could have done something to prevent it or worse we caused it.

Been shot at (both on the ground and in the air) and shot back but, more important than that, I've had to speak at memorial services and deal with people hurt in my unit. So, for what it's worth, this fight is personal to me because I've lost friends, just as I'm sure you have as well. I'm on my 7th deployment to either Iraq or Afghanistan at about 4-6 months a pop.

I mention all this because I, sincerely, hope you get some comfort that there are lots of Airmen out there like me who wake up and fall asleep every day giving it all to make sure you, the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, and Marine at the tip of the spear have the best chance to succeed in your mission from the lowest level to the highest and go home to your family alive and well. I assure you, I'm not the only Airman that feels this way...there more of us than those in the negative examples that some in this blog want to post.

 

AIR FORCE BLUE

8:46 AM ET

November 11, 2009

Message to Pundits

Now for the pundits...who I'm sure they'll dismiss my comments above, or, who knows, maybe you'll find some grammatical errors that you can use to support your "interesting" theory that my Service contributed to 9/11.

I always find amazing just how much pleasure retired and active members of other Services take in making fun of the Air Force. It must be so satisfying having reached nirvana in your own Service that you are no longer able to find anything wrong with you own Branch/Department and can spend all your time picking on the Air Force. How comforting it must be exist in a world that you've reached absolute perfection and, thus, don't have exert any form of energy on self-criticism that could improve your own processes and practices. It must be so nice living in that world...perhaps, I'll visit some day.

Oh, wait, I'm sure the thought that just popped to mind is: "but it's so easy to pick on the Air Force...", got it...it's easy...picking on other Services IS EASY! The hard thing is to check the mirror of your own Service and try to do something about the things that are not quite right.

Kelly Martin, my complements for trying to defend our Service. I agree with some of the subsequent comments others made about our Service and we need to do something to address them in earnest. I'm sure you'll do your part and look forward to working with you to improve/solve our own problems and issues. Thanks again for taking the initiative to comment.

Mr Riggs, thank you for the opportunity to comment. For what it's worth, I happen to agree with DM Dennis as to your points and intentions

 

RUBBER DUCKY

12:35 PM ET

November 11, 2009

Be clear...

Be clear. I was pointing out the problems of My Favorite Air Force when I was on active duty, in a national publication and in a study put in print by an Air Force colonel (and the forward signed by an Air Force two-star). My criticism won a JCS prize signed by an Air Force 4-star and handed me by an Air Force 3-star. I would occasionally point out Air Force ironies and dysfunctions to the Air Force flag who later hosted my command on his base ... and he would say 'sadly so.'

Picking on the Air Force may be like shooting fish in a barrel, but it also has a serious national-defense side to it as well. Your Service is a very pricey hood ornament in a military that is usually strapped for full funding.

My Navy is often accused of go-it-alone, but we've been integrated with the US Marine Corps since our founding, we've had combat aircraft tightly woven into our operations since the days of the USS LANGLEY, we carry the bulk of the gear to all wars, and it's an admiral who heads US Special Forces Command (and our NATO command ... and the JCS).

That's in contrast to the airpower advocates in My Favorite Air Force who feebly deny in public believing what they insist on privately, that Air Force airpower alone can carry any conflict. The strongest contribution air capability can make to ground operations is close air support. Air Force hates that mission, tried to kill the A-10, is giving it short shrift now. Why does the Marine Corps need Marine Corps aviation? Because it can't count on the Air Force for close air support. Drones are not a substitute. But even drones are in the wrong Service. Any objective analysis would weave them in with Army for regular combat and Special Forces for snake-eater ops.

 

PRAHAPARTIZAN

1:49 PM ET

November 11, 2009

Visions of War

After reading the comments here, I thought that maybe it was time to go back and thumb through Carl H. Builder's "The Masks of War: American Military Styles in Strategy and Analysis" to see what he had to say twenty years ago. Much has changed since the old Soviet Union went away, but clearly much remains the same. Many of the comments offered here in this blog parallel what this study had assessed even then. In particular, he discusses "images of conflict" for the different services. The Navy's and Air Force's "images of conflict" don't seem to have changed very much, but the Army's has and it hasn't. The Army's images have changed because they're no longer facing the prospect of fighting the Soviet Union in Central Europe. It hasn't because the Army knew it needed a new image twenty years ago and really hasn't developed a commonly accepted on in the interim.

 

TOM RICKS

4:13 PM ET

November 11, 2009

Builder's 'Masks of War'

Terrific book. I think it would show up on more reading lists, except that it is kind of uncategorizable, except in the broadest sense. What is it about? The best I can come up with is "the different cultures of the American armed forces."
Best,
Tom

 

RUBBER DUCKY

3:05 PM ET

November 12, 2009

Books on Military Differences

FYI, Builder's book was first released by Rand under the title "Who Will Bell The Cat?" Have read both versions at different times years back and saw no differences. Splendid outside view of the insides of the Services.

An earlier (and excellent) look at Service differences is J. C. Wylie's "Military Strategy: A General Theory of Power Control." Unmatched. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Classics-of-Sea-Power/J-C-Wylie/e/9780870213625

And the latest entrant is Roger Barnett's "Navy Strategic Culture." Roger, a key figure in the Maritime Strategy of the '80s and a sound defense academic, does a superb job of saying why the Navy thinks differently. Navy understands this at a subliminal level but the other Services don't and really should. I have quibbles with some of his assertions and I think his chapter 8 is a disgrace (girls bad, gays awful), but it's as good as anything since Wylie. http://www.amazon.com/Navy-Strategic-Culture-Thinks-Differently/dp/1591140242/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258038119&sr=1-1

 

AIR FORCE BLUE

5:21 PM ET

November 11, 2009

JCS prize

Rubber Ducky,

If you only knew how much restraint I'm using to not make fun of your coveted JCS prize but I'm sure it means a lot to you and I won't go there - it'd be like taking one's rubber ducky - just not fair.

My friend, we're on the same team. And, I know that my Service is not without fault, if anything we've not even scratched the surface of our issues. Our current CSAF is trying to do exactly that - fix our problems and support the joint fight. Same with your CNO, and our CJCS...all class act 4-stars trying to do the right thing for the country (Same with the SACEUR and USSOCOM). It'll take a while but we're on track and, as a Navy man, you know that it takes a bit to steer a big ship to another course/direction.

But, you can't possibly be serious about your suggestion as to why the Marines need their own air...you really think it's because it can't count on USAF for CAS? They may not trust the Air Force...but, you really don't think it has anything to do with the Navy and possibly some sort of USMC insecurity that the Navy may not be able to provide CAS for its amphibious component? You don't think it has anything to do with how the Navy always spends LOTS of its sorties on the protection of that self-licking-ice-cream cone called the carrier. Sure, you've improved your self protection mechanisms so that you don't use 70% of your sorties to protect the carrier, but when an aircraft leaves the carrier, you can talk about 'effects' all you want, the that the navy pilot is always concerned with is landing back on that ship in one piece...and his runway is not as "fixed" as the Air Force Base.

As much as I respect Naval officers (my whole family has been at sea for generations), please don't lecture about my Service and you seem to not find any fault in your Naval integration with the Marines. And while I applaude your concern for serious national defense issues, I also find it amazing that you felt compelled to spend your time at war college on Air Force issues rather than tackle navy problems. But I guess it takes a lot more courage to tackle your own service than it does to pick on another service, doesn't it?

I mean, there's really no reason for you to consider some of the Navy's brilliant spending projects for your paper and suggest improvements...no way you could have picked on the Virginia Class submarine at 2.8 billion dollars each, or maybe pick on the Seawolf project and how the last one of three was built in order to retain the vitality of the submarine industrial base... Nope, no way...these projects are flawless and they need no improvement whatsoever - no lessons learned or potential flaws in a post cold war strategy with cold war assets. And, I'm sure that there's no reason for you to research the 4.5 Billion dollar Carrier concept (without added cost of airplanes) because I President Clinton may ask "where's our carrier" when an emergency occurs (insert navy joke about air craft carrier port calls here)

Seriously, I shouldn't pick on carriers, I like them...they have airplanes that our JFACC can use sometimes. But, if I was going to pick on carriers, I'd not pick on the carrier itself, I'd pick on the Joint Strike fighter that both services (make it 3 Services, with the Marines) are putting rediculous amounts of money towards.

I must admit though, and I've saved the best for last, the thing that interests me most and hope that you can explain, (if the audience is lucky, you may skip this response and it can be your sequel to your prize winning war college essay) is your "objective analysis" that puts all UAVs in the Army. Can't wait to hear what evidence you're using to support this assertion. Is it because they're doing such wonderful work integrating their organic UAS in their activities so far that they have clearly demonstrated how they are uniquely qualified to run ALL UAVs.

Guess that's my quota for the day.

 

RUBBER DUCKY

7:27 PM ET

November 11, 2009

reply

Pipsqueak.

 

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Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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