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One reader of this blog, David McCracken, in response to an earlier posting suggested reading this article on PTSD that ran in Scientific American earlier this year.

It's worth reading. Essentially it argues that the diagnosis of PTSD is being "wildly, even dangerously, overextended." I think that may be true in some ways. But it seems to assume that having PTSD means being disabled. (And he shows how the U.S. government's benefit system seems to push veterans in that direction.) Yet, he says, he can point to a veteran he knows who supposedly is at risk, yet functions just fine, at home, at work and in society.

But I found a lot to disagree with here. First, I know plenty of people who I think have PTSD, yet function extremely well. That doesn't mean they don't have it. That just means they have learned to handle it, or even have moved on.  

I got the sense that the article's author, David Dobbs, and the researchers he interviewed know a lot more about psychiatry than they do about war. For example, I find it entirely possible that PTSD rates are higher for Iraq than they were in Vietnam. First, there is no safe, rear area in Iraq -- even the Green Zone has taken plenty of rockets. Second, and more significantly, the proportion of soldiers and Marines doing multiple combat tours is much higher in Iraq than it was in Vietnam, where there were lots of draftees who did one tour and then got out. 

I find Dobbs more persuasive when he argues that there is a "cultural obsession" with PTSD. "It may be our own postwar neurosis."

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TOM MATTIS

1:53 PM ET

July 15, 2009

PTSD

I strongly agree that the PTSD diagnosis has been overextended and that it carries with it - even where it genuinely occurs and is properly diagnosed. Further, the additional stigma placed on one is that one who suffers from it is that he or she is a highlyl dysfunctional individual, unable to adjust and move on. The truth is far different: the vast majority of veterans who experience the severe stresses of war put their memories in the background and go on to lead productive lives and build and sustain solid relationships, both personal and professional.

I don't think it is fruitful to get into a debate about whether Iraq or Vietnam produced more PTSD. There wasn't much of a rear in Vietnam either (particularly at night): incoming rockets, mortars and artillery rounds were common nighttime occurences at many forward combat bases, LZs, air bases and other areas in the rear of the grunts. My locales along the DMZ were within range of heavy, dug-in 152mm and 130mm NVA artillery - not pleasant.

Regardless, if we had properly understood and properly diagnosed PTSD in previous wars I suspect the number of cases from our more recent wars would pale against the numbers of those cases from WWII, WWI and the Civil War, where the slaughter was on a scale we contemporary Americans can barely comprehend, yet those men came back to settle the American west, build American industry, survive the Great Depression, and build America into the world's premier economic engine and military power. I doubt that very many saw themselves as victims.

The marks left by war more often inspire people to make the very best of the life that remains to them, and while those who struggle with it deserve all the help we can give they ought not be held up as exemplars of entire generations of warriors. A perfectly healthy and well-adjusted personality is no less so because the person also has nightmares from time to time, or is swept by emotion or difficult memories. It is in those memories that, among other things, we pay homage to those we left behind, and that is NOT dysfunctional.

 

TOM RICKS

2:26 PM ET

July 16, 2009

This is a really thoughtful comment

I appreciate your sending it in.
Best,
Tom

 

DOUGSAMUELSON

1:44 AM ET

July 16, 2009

Some of what is diagnosed as

Some of what is diagnosed as PTSD may be part of a physical ailment rather than just psychological. Acute respiratory distress precipitates mood disorder and cognitive impairment, typically peaking two years later. Incidence and severity depend on treatment at the time of exposure. This is part of what happened to Gulf War I vets because of the massive exposure to burning oil and to some of the people now tracked in the World Trade Center Health Registry.

I would also agree that some people adjust to trauma much better than others. The circumstances to which they return make a difference, too. Higher stress environments and more broken families make those adjustments more challenging now than they were after the Civil War or World War I. PTSD may be over-diagnosed now, but it is still poorly understood, and that's the more important problem.

 

COW COOKIE

8:46 AM ET

July 16, 2009

Where does "combat stress" fit in?

I've heard some people refer to "combat stress" as if it's a milder form of PTSD - sort of like heat exhaustion vs. heat stroke. Is this a true condition? If so, maybe the error is in the nomenclature. Those who are able to function fine - but have occasional nightmares and such - have combat stress instead of true PTSD. Then again, this may just be part of the general muddying of the waters when it comes to discussing PTSD.

 

HEAVILY ARMED TOURIST

12:33 PM ET

July 16, 2009

Fire hose theory

When I was a young officer someone explained to me that the Army personnel system works like a fire hose. When a post gets low on people they turn the fire hose on and it overflows...then another cup gets empty and they fire hose it. So you are either 25% understrength or 25% overstrength. I have since learned that we also conduct Public Affairs issues the same way. After the Walter Reed debacle we turned the fire hose on soldier care. Now we are still going like a fire hose on anything to do with health issues so every soldier is a potential "victim" of something. PTSD, MTBI, suicide, prescription drug abuse, sexual assault...we are all just ticking time bombs waiting to go off. The truth is that the overwhelming majority of us have seen horrors we would rather forget and often they show up at the wrong time. More often than not your wife rubs your shoulder and tells you that things are fine and you get on with life. Its not always PTSD or MTBI...sometimes its just the life of a soldier and we are getting carried away beating the victim drum to a ridiculous degree. There are many in our ranks who need real help and we have to take care of them but to assume everyone is a potential patient with no hope of recovery is a bit much. Just my opinion after four combat tours.

 

DOUGSAMUELSON

12:44 PM ET

July 16, 2009

When is a bad mood a disorder?

As a psychiatrist I was working with on an outcomes study explained it to me some years ago, "Depression isn't having five or more of the symptoms on that checklist we use. It's having five or more of those symptoms without a break for at least two weeks, with no clear outside cause for why you feel so bad." In other words, everyone gets into bad moods from time to time, for whatever reason. Some situations would upset anyone -- for a while. It's not a disorder that needs treatment until you (or people close to you who know you well) conclude that you can't handle it on your own and are unlikely to improve much without help.

 

Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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