How does this make America safer?

Thu, 05/21/2009 - 11:12am

Finally, Americans may get the right to carry concealed loaded weapons in National Parks. How did we get so far without this privilege?

The irony is that the National Park Service doesn't even allow kayaks on the Yellowstone River in Yellowstone National Park. But now we can pack pistols with our picnics.  

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Yellowstone Falls would be

perfectly safe for unregulated recreational boating, as long as you recognize they are unrunnable. 10-ish on a scale of 6.

The folks trying to get pics of their kids petting bison along the road there does kinda raise issues. Being quick with a 44 magnum might come in handy if the photo shoot starts to go south.

But

But, if you are willing to break the law, you can carry down and put in at the base of the falls. I recall that "American Whitewater" magazine ran an account several years ago of doing just that.

also great float opportunities

in the Kush. But allow for complicated permitting, a tough shuttle, and consider armed guides in a permissive firearm environment. I'm thinking the hotsprings aren't swimsuit optional.

Many lowland boaters have underestimated the aerobic challenges of swimming in frothed snowmelt above 8,000 ft.

I once looked at jellystone for a tri-divide round-robin series, since there is water moving towards the Mississippi, Columbia and Colorado drainages from that area.

Yes and no

Yes, the snow melt, 33-degree water can be a shock to we lowlanders. And the cold is hard, especially on older paddlers--just check out the rash of over-45 deaths of boaters in the Rockies over the last couple of years.

On the other hand, in the East we have much longer kayaking seasons, so people learn more and younger. When my 12-year-old son paddled the Yankee Jim Canyon of the Yellowstone, locals were shocked. But my son was handling it easily.

I've actually never paddled in Afghanistan (I did know a guy who paddled the Panjshir back in the late '60s). I have paddled the Una River in NW Bosnia, which was a real pleasure--like boating in Perrier water. We did indeed have to get off the river though when we get to a mined area.

cold, old and out of breath

Climbers tell me that oxygen is warmth. The annual rash of of dry-over-wetsuit hypothermia deaths in the Rockies is partly due to reduced athletic performance at altitude, and paddlers not adjusting personal minimums for elevation and variable flow rates.

The mine thing did put a damper on my Balkan boating ambitions. Venezuela looked good, and Ecuador sounds fun. Columbia, not so much. I often consider bending the rules to paddle the unused Marine beaches N. of Oceanside.

There is

a 'right to arm bears' joke in here somewhere.

I generally support 2nd Amendment rights and find this just stupid. Is this where the Republicans are now?

2nd Amendment

If you have earned the right to carry a concealed weapon, through background checks, firing range quals, etc, why would you have to remove the weapon at the entrance to a national park? Hikers and campers have been attacked and killed in national parks, and defending yourself from such attacks, though they are rare, seems reasonable. My guess is that those perpetrating the crimes do not check their weapons at the door.

well

there might be some accidental shootings of feet/ trees etc, but this might increase visitorship in some way, and solo thru hikers might feel more inclined to do their thing on say the app. trail. there HAVE been murders/ robberies over the years. I don't think that there will be an increase in poaching, as some have suggested.

Occam... Razors 1 - Guns 0

Because the Gun Lobby spends more money on congresscritter's lunches than the Kayak Lobby?

Occam's razor... always sharp.

What's the big deal?

All this does is give concealed-carry authority back to the states. So if a national park is in a state that allows concealed carry, then people who have a concealed carry permit can carry a gun inside that park. That's all - this change simply makes the national parks the same as most other federal land for carry rights.

Untrue

Untrue. State laws don't apply in National parks. Mutual aid agreements apply, but the state has no right to enforce their laws there. Federal laws apply.

Proof? Get picke up in a national park in California (where Prop 215 Medical Marijuana is state law) with pot and a state medical card, and they COULD jail you under federal possession laws and ignore your state legal right to possess (but... most likely won't for small amounts).

They WILL make you persona non gratis though.

There's a a whole other cultural issue in there somewhere.

You can carry a gun and feel safe while others feel threatened, but you can't carry a plant that make you giggle when you smoke it, while others feel disdain for you.

I have this mental image of

I have this mental image of some drunk idiot in a canoe, trying to shoot passing fish with his pistol.

TOM RICKS OWES APOLOGY FOR UNPROFESSIONAL ARTCLE ON ACADEMIES

Tom Ricks wrote in the Washington Post to abolish all Academies and War Colleges but still has not told which if any of the Academies or War Colleges he has actually visited so that readers and listeners would know if Ricks had any valid knowledge of what he is talking about. That is, Ricks popped-off with "Lets kill Annapolis et al" with no personal knowledge of the life, culture, ethos of each of the Academies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/16/AR2009041603483.html

The article by Tom Ricks in this case is irresponsible and sloppy and Ricks owes cadets, midshipmen, families, NOK, grads, prospects and his readers an apology for his weak journalism. His topic, Accountability and Transparency, is excellent -- Grads more or as much as any others urge Accountability and Transparency of their Academies -- and War Colleges -- and I have written so; but his actual article is so failed as to warrant some decent apology especially for injury to those who cannot hit back: families and NOK and the dead and prospects for academies affected by the sloppy article.

By way of introduction, my West Point class is 1966. I chaired construction of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in DC and worked with vets for decades building the Korean War Veterans Memorial, the Women's statue at the Wall, the Women in Military Service Memorial in DC and Memorials in many states. Right now I work to help the project for the WW II Women Pilots (WASPs) be awarded a Congressional Gold Medal, as were the Tuskegee Airmen. That legislation has just passed the Senate. For President Reagan I planned and directed the Vietnam Veterans Leadership Program in 47 states. Some of the programs continue to this day, on their own funding. The VVLP mission is to link vets up with each other to find jobs and to break the false stereotype of vets as folks to feel sorry for, to pity, to treat as victims; instead to recognize vets as Strong Warfighters and Strong Citizens. Many VVLP guys and gals now work this mission for Iraq and Afghanistan vets.

Here is why Tom Ricks owes an apology. First, he seems not even to know that USCGA and USMMA exist. But his piece would abolish them. What an insult to USCGA and USMMA -- to say abolish them and not mention them. Second, Ricks does not say where on the web his cost data can be obtained and examined. Third, he in fact has not visited all the Academies and War Colleges he would shut, in a way to learn their ethos and culture and effectiveness of teaching, but by his tone of (false) knowledge, readers would think he has some close knowledge of the schools; West Point reports that Ricks has visited briefly, but not to learn anything at West Point of depth about the life and values of cadets and West Point and of West Point grads.

Fourth, Ricks omits mention that Washington and Jefferson long ago had sharp discussions about the need for West Point, and Washington strongly wanted the Academy. Jefferson opposed until right after he became President and saw the light, so to speak. He set up West Point (and so all Academies) (except USCGA) to draw youngsters from all walks of life -- the very poor especially -- proportionately from all over America through Congressional appointment. The Academies Reflect America thanks to Jefferson's Genius and Washington's Leadership.

Ricks seems not to know that the founders were clear on the need for a National Military Academy and he does not re-examine their arguments. USCGA brings in applicants by examination only, not by appointment from Congress proportionally nationwide. USCGA still succeeds in reflecting all of America and in fact has a slightly higher proportion of women admitted than the other four academies.

Fifth, Ricks does a thing that shows complete unfamiliarity with the heartbeat and life of the Academies: he tries to separate the Graduates from their Academies by saying the Grads are "crackerjack" but the schools are "community colleges" -- meant to mean, "second or third rate." So he insults Community Colleges too :) Most Academy grads strive to embody the values of their Academy in their lives. Ricks, unaware of this, shows a kind of insulting ignorance.

Sixth, Ricks in his article holds up ROTC as a paradigm without noting that no O-10 in active service has faced Peer War -- WW II kind of like war -- meaning that in 2009 the military does not know if ROTC programs steel grads adequately for Peer War. Meanwhile, Academies are proved in steeling grads for Peer War. He does not address the known un-evenness and disparities and inadequacies reported on many ROTC programs nationwide. He shows ignorance of his subject matter, in short. He goes on to say that Academy grads are too expensive therefore, but with no foundation of fact and analysis. Some or many or all ROTC programs may in fact be significantly underfunded.

Seventh, Ricks in his piece uses some alleged hearsay about some commanders who prefer non-West Pointers, he says. That is fine -- West Point is not perfect and not nearly perfect :) But anecdotal hearsay proves nothing. An editor of merit would have deleted, and pressed for real substantiation.

Eighth, Ricks omits to say that more than any other Americans, many Academy grads believe that their Academies have to earn their keep anew in each generation. I have written this myself. It is a reason that I participated in and supported the work of author Rick Atkinson in his writing the book, "The Long Gray Line" about West Point and the class of 1966. I told Rick, "We owe an accounting, to say to Americans, this is what you gave to us, and this is our Report." The book shows my own foibles, blunders and errors :) The point is, Accountabilty and Transparency :)

Ninth, Ricks omits mention of women and the gateway that the Academies provide to women for contributing to the defense and life of our Country. In 2005 the 10,000th woman graduated from the Five Federal Academies (I did the research); America is now on the way to 15,000 women grads of the Academies. This is a powerful and culturally and militarily important cohort. Ricks seems oblivious to this aspect, the aspect of bringing women so quickly and fully into mainstream Military and (as vets) Community Leadership. This exhibits again the genius of Washington and Jefferson. They made this possible.

Tenth, the piece Ricks wrote is so journalistically irresponsible that it unforgivably wounded folks who Can't Fight Back. That is, he rattled the morale and feelings of parents of prospective cadets and midshipmen and the prospects themselves, and many cadets and midshipmen, and widows and NOK of Academy grads killed in battle, and he insulted the brave dead from Academies. Hal Moore USMA 1945 of "We Were Soldiers" is an overpriced product of a third-rate college? Some would disagree. His steel in saving his battalion is seen by many as Proof of West Point's Value as Founded by Presidents Washington and Jefferson. Paul W. "Buddy" Bucha USMA 1965 is an overpriced grad of a third rate school? Congress and the President probably thought otherwise in citing Buddy for the Medal of Honor for saving the 89 men in his surrounded and cut-off Company in the 101st Abn. My dad John Wheeler USMA Jan 1943 at Normandy and the Ardennes and the Bridge at Remagen and the Liberation of the Nordhausen Death Camps was the overpriced grad of a third rate school? Ricks can go to Arlington and speak that at my Dad's grave :)

Eleventh, Ricks rabbit-punches Dave Petraeus USMA 1974. He insults him. He calls Dave's school third rate but says Dave somehow got into Princeton for graduate school. Dave had been kind and gracious to Ricks. Ricks is rather insulting to the Commanding General who trusts him. He does owe an apology for that. Ricks ignores that Dave himself by his life and work strives to embody West Point.

Twelfth, Ricks clings to an unmanly quality of Never Own up to an Error. There are better men and women at the Washington Post than that. Dave Broder, for example. Ann Scott Tyson, for example. Henry Allen, for example. Don Graham, for example. Ricks instead has done the unmanly thing of hiding behind a few editors at the Post who hew to the "Never Apologize, Never Explain" doctrine that infects some Journalists. The ombudsman of the Post says he only does news, not opinion pieces. Ricks' editor at the Outlook Section has never explained why he let the journalistically weak piece get published in a Fine Newspaper. The Editorial Page editor still does not "get" the flaws of the Ricks writing. The topic -- Accountability for the Academies -- is superb and timely. The actual article is journalistically unprofessional and failed.

Ricks instead drifts along at stall-speed, so to speak, in denial -- unattractive in anyone but especially a journalist and author. Instead Ricks this week points out that the West Point class of 1976 with Raymond Odierno, Dave Rodriguez, and Stanley McChrystal had the travail of an Honor scandal -- a periodic event at USMA; but without mention that at West Point Honor is Real and the human condition means that humans fall short. The point is, West Point stands for and hews faithfully to Honor. And to Accountabilty and Transparency.

The Washington Post and Tom Ricks want the Military and the Academies to be Transparent and Accountable. But in this egregious case of awful journalism the Washington Post and Tom Ricks do not hold themselves to anything close to that Noble Standard.

The Editorial Page Editor and Outlook Editor of the Post and Ricks can Man-Up and apologize, at least to the young and innocent and good folks they wounded.

John Wheeler
USMA 66
wheelerusa@usa.net