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Here's a response to my call to shut down West Point from Col. Cindy Jebb, Ph.D., a professor in the social sciences department there:

There has been a great deal of discourse prompted by Tom Ricks's article that calls for the dissolution of West Point.  Perhaps because Mr. Ricks has only seen a glimpse of West Point, he fails to understand the institution and its contributions. To appreciate West Point and its multidimensional value, one must grasp that it is much more than the sum of its programs, its graduates, and its faculty. 

I would like to provide another voice, one with experience that Mr. Ricks lacks: West Point graduate with 27 years of service in the Army, a PhD from Duke University, and a professorship at West Point.  Furthermore, I am the co-chair of West Point's Middle States Commission on Higher Education (MSCHE) Self Study. MSCHE is a regional, peer review commission that accredits institutions of higher learning. Because the brightest students and the best faculty want to work at excellent institutions, colleges and universities seek MSCHE accreditation or its regional equivalent. 

The MSCHE perspective values a holistic approach to learning. Tom Ricks misses much of the extraordinary work conducted around the Academy that plugs into key offices at the Pentagon, Training and Doctrine Command, and Combatant Commands as well. Why do these offices seek out West Point? West Point is a genuine academy in the classical sense. It brings together the best minds, from all academic disciplines to forge new ways of thinking and to solve issues of national and international importance, while simultaneously focusing on the personal and professional development of its students and faculty. 

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West Point embraces two cultures, academic and military, and there is a synergy that develops when an institution, guided by the concept of Duty--Honor-Country, coalesces with the mission to produce highly educated leaders. To do this, West Point selects the best faculty members, both civilian and military; ensures that they excel at the best graduate school programs in their fields; and continues to develop them professionally.  Subsequently, all faculty members engage academe through conferences, publications, and other outreach venues, and apply that continued intellectual growth in the classroom, to academe, to army problems, and to national issues. This environment is unique and produces a symbiosis that cannot be duplicated anywhere else.

The core of the professional cadre is our rotating military faculty whom we select usually after company command and then send them to the best graduate school programs in the world. Most receive master's degrees and some earn PhDs, and they serve in classrooms with small groups of approximately 15 cadets, teaching, learning, and mentoring during a two or three year assignment before returning to operational army assignments. They also pursue scholarship beyond the master's level. They become West Point's "second graduating class" because they leave West Point after teaching, mentoring, and learning ready to take the reins of positions of high trust and responsibility in the army. Civilians comprise approximately one-fourth of the faculty and virtually all have PhDs. They serve as mentors, scholars, and teachers as well and collaborate with their military faculty colleagues, thus enriching the faculty experience. A third faculty flavor are our senior military professors who have excelled as field grade officers, earned a PhD, and have dedicated themselves to  West Point, collaborating with senior civilian faculty, to mentor cadets and faculty, shape the curriculum, conduct outreach, and lead and govern the institution.

Just yesterday, COL Bill Ostlund, the Deputy Commander of the 75th Ranger Regiment visited, and he mentioned three points that highlight the importance of an institution that embraces both academe and the military. First, he said he gained important credibility among Afghan tribal and religious leaders precisely because they knew that he had taught at West Point before his arrival in Afghanistan. He was introduced everywhere as COL Ostlund, the former professor. Second, COL Ostlund mentioned that officers competing for assignment in the Rangers have very similar military experiences, and many times what separated the exceptional candidates were their academic achievements. Finally, he mentioned that good decisions grounded in discipline, morality, and ethics determined victory more than anything else. West Point is truly the bedrock of our profession's moral and ethical grounding, and it is at West Point that we embrace the axiom of choosing "the harder right, rather than the easier wrong."

So does our nation need West Point? The institution does more than produce platoon leaders. It produces strategic thinkers, which is now necessary even at the small unit level. Mike Krzyzewski, Duke's Basketball Coach, has said that the hardest part of coaching is teaching people how to think. West Point is driven to do just that, that is to teach current and future leaders how to think, not what to think. 

Mr. Ricks uses dollars and cents to measure effectiveness. How does one put a dollar figure to such graduates as Senator Jack Reed, Coach Mike Krzyzewski, Generals Eisenhower, Bradley, Petraeus, and so many, many others? How about the non-West Point graduates who taught at West Point such as Generals Pete Chiarelli and Kip Ward, Medal of Honor recipient Jack Jacobs, Deputy DHS Secretary Jane Holl Lute, COL Bill Ostlund, and again so many others? Young men and women can be educated at many institutions of quality, and they can prepare for service as army officers elsewhere. At many colleges and universities, faculty ponder important issues and influence the thinking of those who lead us. And those values that make this nation a bastion of freedom are not the invention of West Point. But nowhere else do these values, intellectual energy, and mission of producing leaders of character come together with such purpose.

Every day I feel at once humbled and honored to serve at West Point, and now even more so as my son will soon join the Long Gray Line that continues to offer this country its long held traditions, while always out front creating new ones that reflect who we are as a people, as a nation, and as a trusted officer corps.

Also, more points for West Point: I just learned that Gore Vidal was born there!

Seriously, I do take her point about West Point's "second graduating class" being the younger faculty. I've seen this in other contexts, such as Marine boot camp, where the younger drill instructors are molded into solid NCOs. But I get a little suspicious whenever people who are spending the taxpayers' money tell me not to worry about dollars and cents. I think there is an argument to be made for West Point, but it tends to be, as here, that the value is hard to quantify. 

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IAN.D.SMITH

5:23 PM ET

May 13, 2009

Thanks to Col Jebb, and to Tom Ricks.

Thanks to Col Jebb for her response. She was a superb professor while I was studying in USMA Sosh Dept. I condsidered her a mentor. She could have justifiably mentioned her own name in that list as a distinguished--if not as publicly notable--graduates and instructors.

And thanks, Mr Ricks for posting her comments. I do appreciate recent fairness in this debate by posting and acknowledging the many defenses of the Academies provided by respondents.

Ian Smith

 

CHRISTOPHER.BOYER3

9:36 PM ET

May 13, 2009

What about the undergrads?

I think COL Jebb's statement underscores the real importance of West Point: an institution for developing field grade officers.

That being said, it's no secret that a fair number of cadets get burned out at West Point, become disillusioned, and aren't allowed to "get their wiggles out" in the same ways as their civilian counterparts.

So why not revive a point made at the start of this debate: turning West Point into a post-undergraduate institution. This would allow for cadets to receive a highly specialized education, similar to that of a master's program. If the Army was truly serious about the "pentathlete" model, it would create an academic path for future officers to develop a relevant skill set. This would result in West Point producing 2LTs with significantly more relevant academic training than the typical undergraduate.

In addition, cadets would be entering the institution after four years in college. Cadets would likely be more socially capable than a student kept in a cage for four years.

 

UAVKING

12:57 AM ET

May 14, 2009

Good Points...

*cough* Sandhurst *cough* Or consider, perhaps, the example of the Class of 1918 which was graduated early and then returned, after war experience, to finish their education.

 

NU86

4:05 PM ET

May 14, 2009

Missing the Point...

Col Jedd - There is no I in Team but clearly there is one in Academia. Thanks for your Curriculum Vitae. By the way – how many combat deployments?

The question that Mr Ricks posed is, my paraphrase, are we getting what we pay for? The flat out answer is NO.
In a recent study by the Strategic Studies Institute (APR 09), TOWARDS A U.S. ARMY OFFICER CORPS
STRATEGY FOR SUCCESS: A PROPOSED HUMAN CAPITAL MODEL FOCUSED UPON TALENT, the data shows that West Point Graduates have the lowest continuation rates in the Army. The analysis shows that the commissioning sources with the highest investment rates (West Point and ROTC Scholarships) had the lowest continuation/retention rates.

Look at the disparity in the commissioning sources: Officer Candidate School – OCS (40%), Reserve Officer Training Corps – ROTC (40%) and West Point- USMA (20%). Over the last ten years OCS has grown from 10% to being 40% of the commissioning pool; ROTC has gone from 70% to 40% of the pool and USMA has remained steady-state at a congressionally mandated 20% commissioning rate. The data also shows that the commissioning sources that receive the most money (USMA and ROTC scholarships) have the lowest continuation rates in the Army, while OCS has the highest continuation rate. Maybe this has something to do with 45% of OCS attendees having over 10 years of enlisted time? This basic analysis suggests to a reasonable person that the country is not getting what it’s paying for.

Col Jedd’s diatribe and homage to basketball coaches and others, and well as her causal statement “the institution does more than produce platoon leaders” fails to account for THE mission of USMA:

“To educate, train, and inspire the Corps of Cadets so that each graduate is a commissioned leader of character committed to the values of Duty, Honor, Country and prepared for a career of professional excellence and service to the Nation as an officer in the United States Army.”

Its not about strategic thinking, developing an academic resume or being a “permanent professor”, it is about fighting and winning our nations wars. The cost of USMA is disproportionate to the small numbers of officers that it commissions. It is time to evolutionize our accessions methodology. If we can down size the auto industry because they are wasting money, whats so wrong with downsizing USMA to meet the needs of the Army in order to win wars?

 

CHUCKDC

5:17 PM ET

May 14, 2009

you sure did miss the point

COL Jebb's wise commentary seems to have gone right over your head, and your comment doesn't make any sense. Nowhere in the USMA mission is the service of its graduates restricted to war-fighting, combat tours or the like. ANd your suggestion that we downsize USMA to meet the Army's needs lacks any evidence at all. And to the contrary, the USMA mission is EXACTLY about preparing graduates for a lifetime of service to the nation -- without strategic thinking, how is that going to happen?

Fact is, the Army benefits from pulling its officer corps from the three sources -- the full-time immersion on the life that USMA grads bring, the connection to the rest of the college-age population that ROTC grads bring, and the field experience OCS grads bring. The combination is what makes the Army's officer corps strong; removing some piece of it may 'save' money -- but at what cost to the professionalism of the whole body?

COL Jebb is a national treasure, as are her fellow military professors at USMA. Their solid leadership and exemplary performance of duty keeps USMA committed to its 207-year-old mission. And her point about the 'second class of graduates' -- the junior faculty who go on to important assignments after teaching at West Point -- is further evidence of the importance the school holds for the Army and the Nation. Those officers leave West Point ready to do great things for us, and their years on the USMA faculty make that possible.... Of course, I was her office mate at USMA and am a fellow grad, so I am probably a little biased. She embodies the Corps of Cadets' dedication to Duty-Honor-Country, and is a role model for her peers as well as the cadets she teaches.

 

ANDYBROB

11:03 PM ET

May 14, 2009

wait, what?

So we don't need strategic leaders to win wars?
OCS may produce good low-level officers, but not generals. Tommy Franks may have been a good LT, but he was a terrible general who never cracked a history book. That's why GEN Petraeus (West Point and Princeton PhD), a great academic and strategic leader, has turned the tide.

The only reason OCS people stay in beyond captain is because they can't get as good of a job in the real world. Also, the Army has a terrible record in terms of how it has treated junior officers in the past two decades. That's why a lot of us are getting out as soon as possible.

 

RICHARD01

5:11 PM ET

May 14, 2009

West Point

This very discussion seems ridiculous.

America hasn't fought and won a war for 60+ years (excepting grand campaigns like Panama and Grenada).

Are any of the current commanders in Afghanistan or Iraq graduates of West Point?

If they are, why are they displaying such conspicuous stupidity?

 

IAN.D.SMITH

12:32 AM ET

May 20, 2009

Wow, you sure jumped in and

Wow, you sure jumped in and showed your as... uh ... I mean ignorance. Nice generalization of the Iraq/Afg. commanders as stupid. Stay off the net unless you have something intelligent to say, bud.

 

JEFFERYTHAYER

6:05 PM ET

May 14, 2009

Grave mistake to close West Point!

West Point and the other service academies produce some of the finest leaders for the United States and the world. It would be a grave mistake to close any of the academies. These institutions offer more than just academics, they instill values, morals, and traditions of America.

As a former Senior NCO and now Officer (OCS Graduate), I understand and respect the importance of grooming these fine young Americans to be not only military leaders but also the civilian leaders of America as well.

Whether the academy graduate decides to make the military a career or take their leadership skills to the civilian sector (after their term of service has ended), America wins either way. These academies are worth the investment to America and the American people.

 

VDJ

4:48 AM ET

May 15, 2009

Subpar graduates? Look for the real culprit

Mr. Ricks,

While I don't think there is a need to question West Point's very existence, I think there is good reason to question the poor quality of some West Point graduates. I think part of the problem can be summed up in two words: admissions and sports.

Although West Point has a long standing football heritage, the current academy leadership has placed an even stronger emphasis on sports. In attempting to stay competitive at Division I-level sports, particularly football, the ability to play sports has trumped academic ability. How many cadets are recruited for athletic talent alone? While a number of cadet athletes have stellar academic records, there is also a growing number of candidates who make it in purely on athletic talent. In fact, from what I’ve heard through the grapevine, the number of these “at risk” cadets is actually increasing dramatically for the class of 2013

How committed are these cadets to an army career? Just look at the case of Cadet Caleb Campbell and USMA’s recent rule change that allows drafted cadets to serve their two years of active service playing their sport (predominantly football) as a “recruiting tool”. (Yeah, because potential cadets are drawn to West Point for its football program.) On several occasions, when I’ve asked cadets “Why did they come to West Point?”, they answered: “To play basketball” or “To play football”. Not "to become an army officer."

So rather than blaming the quality of education at USMA for the poor quality of some graduates, why not look at the source of these sub-par graduates – the admissions process.

 

CASH

3:41 PM ET

May 15, 2009

Bingo. Telling us to ignore

Bingo.

Telling us to ignore costs is a pretty good sign that the benefits are not just hard to quantify but negligible to the point of non-existent by any metric that outsiders would consider meaningful.

 

BUDFOX73

9:06 AM ET

May 22, 2009

Mr. Ricks - Think smart and get serious on USMA!

So who did Sec. Def. Gates just promote to replace General David McKiernan as ISAF and USFOR-A Commander in Afghanistan?

A WEST POINTER named General Stanley A. McChrystal, USMA 1976.

Who is CentCom Commander? A WEST POINTER named General David Petraeus, USMA 1974.

"I want an officer for a secret and dangerous mission. I want a West Point football player."

(Gen. George C. Marshall, during World War II)

I REST MY CASE.

-GRIFF

(kid brother to a US Army Major, USMA 1988, son of USAF Captain, USAFA 1961)

 

Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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