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For years I've thought that one of the best ways to boost Afghanistan's economy would be re-paving the ring road and making it far more secure. (That's the only major highway in the country, connecting Kabul with Mazar-i-Sharif to the north and Kandahar to the south, with connections from those cities to Herat in the west. In the map above, ignore the red line across the middle of the country-that's not a real road.)

Central Asia, to the north of Afghanistan, has a lot of cash from natural gas, as I understand it. And I know the subcontinent, just to the south and east of Afghanistan, has lots of cheap goods it could export overland to Central Asia. It seems to me that getting the ring road up and running would restore a big part of Afghanistan's traditional economy, which is the transport of goods.

So I was glad to see Ashraf Ghani, the former Afghan finance minister, told a Senate Foreign Relations hearing earlier this month that, "If we secured the Ring Road, not just its psychological impact but economic and political impact would be enormous." (I only got around to reading the transcript of the Foreign Relations session on Friday night, on a flight from DC to LA. That is what I love about long flights -- putting on my noise-canceling Bose headphones with a few hours of Oscar Peterson music and cleaning up my reading pile.)

Maybe what is needed on top of that, to get the locals signed up, are truck stops (what Afghans used to call caravan serais) where locals could work. We might also want to think about providing mobile armed escorts, both on the ground and in the air, to truck convoys, to deter Taliban attacks and shakedowns by the police. (As Ghani said at the Foreign Relations session,  "The threat to the local population is from the police...not exclusively from the Taliban.") Providing protection to convoys would place truckers on a far more viable economic basis, and also provide jobs.

This strikes me as a great mission for Strykers.

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SWITKOW

5:34 PM ET

February 23, 2009

Reminds me of an idea my friend had

See, in a perfect world, China would build a pipeline from Iran through Afghanistan; then at least someone would have a economically vested interest in keeping that country stable. As it stands now, no one wants to touch it, but it's far too dangerous to let go.

 

FNORD

6:42 PM ET

February 23, 2009

Great idea, but..

I believe Kilcullen used to be very enthusiastic about this idea a year ago. Some arguments against:
* It gives the Taleban a shootingrange, and is almost impossible to secure.
* The logistics of protecting the workers themselves while performing the job is a daunting task, they will be branded as collaborators and hunted.
* Roads causes shifts in infrastructural powerbalances. For everyone who gets happy, for every quwam that gets strengthened by such an action, someone gets into a relatively weaker position. So they get equally pissed off.
* Increasing economic incentives whithout reforming the political system causes *more* resentment among the peasants, since official wealth will land with the already corrupt and murderous drugkingpins we call allies.

Im sure there are more, I believe J. Foust over at registan.net wrote extensively about it.

 

MATTHIEU AIKINS

9:59 AM ET

February 24, 2009

The central route

In the map above, ignore the red line across the middle of the country-that's not a real road.

I traveled that road using local transport last October and while it's a crummy, treacherous dirt path that closes up in the winter, there were Afghan truckers taking their loads from Kabul to Herat over the central route because the southern ring road had gotten so dangerous. That means four-to-six days instead of one. So yes, the transport situation is getting bad.

My account is here.

 

T. GREER

3:06 PM ET

February 24, 2009

Froust's Words, and Others

In reference to a previous poster, Joshua Froust gave his take on road building=security "meme" in the Sept. '08 issue of the Columbia Journalism Review. That can be found here.

However, I think the roads have more value than fnord, moonofA, or Froust give them credit for. On his blog "Afghanistan Shrugged", ETT chief "Vampire '06" explains better this better than I can:

Roads, we need more of them. A lot more! This is the cornerstone to building Afghanistan and the government. The Romans were successful not because of military technology, it helped, but because they built an extensive road network. Many of which still exist today and are in better shape than roads in Afghanistan.

Without roads the Afghans don’t really need a centralized government. That’s a broad statement but I’ll qualify it here in a minute. The tribe pretty much provides what they need. The tribe protects them, settles disputes and enforces laws. They’re more than capable of doing this and have been for the last several centuries. They fulfill the basic governmental requirements common defense, law and order.

The tribes though can’t build and maintain roads. Now, you need a centralized government to construct, maintain and protect the roads. You get an influx of money as people work on the roads and they quit getting paid to blow us up and it stimulates a demand for goods and services.

With the road comes inter-province commerce for which you need regulation by a central government; a function a tribe can’t accomplish. Sounds kind of like a little situation we had around 1776. The road brings money, communication and progress. You cut the link between Pakistan and the tribal regions because it’s now easier to travel to the interior of Afghanistan to get medical treatment, goods, services the whole lot.

So with a simple road we’ve now created an environment friendly to the support of the Afghan central government. That doesn’t exist now. It’s a lot easier to explain to the Afghans that the Army and police protect the roads and regulate commerce. Additionally taking the, “this is a war on Islam” factor out of the situation.

We’re making sure people can conduct trade and are free to travel as they wish. Sounds like freedom.

Democracy and liberty are damn hard concept to explain to someone who doesn’t see any benefit from the government in Kabul. So what if I elect the guy if he does nothing for me? The population earns money and then we explain that the government will protect their continued ability to do so and that’s a discussion someone understands.

(The source for that one can be found here.)

~T. Greer

 

FNORD

5:12 PM ET

February 24, 2009

good points, but:

"With the road comes inter-province commerce for which you need regulation by a central government; a function a tribe can’t accomplish. Sounds kind of like a little situation we had around 1776. The road brings money, communication and progress."

The question becomes: Who gets this money, communication and to take part of the "progress"? And who does it piss off? A lot of Afghanistan can best be described as a multi-layered null-sum game, how does the forced introduction of a centralized (and deeply deeply deeply corrupt) state affect this game? Does it piss off more folks than it brings to the table? ALso, this implies a functioning state with judicial legitimacy, wich is currently slipping away before our very eyes.

Roads would have been a brilliant idea in the window of opportunity we had between 2001-2004, especially if we had done the statebuilding shit proerly and showered it with serious money. But now, when the great task is to not loose the countryside? I may be wrong, but its difficult.

 

AIB4133

5:06 PM ET

February 24, 2009

Great in theory

Having spent two years in Afghanistan as a highway engineer I can say this is a great idea but probably wouldn't work. The U.S. Gov't (both USAID and USACE) contract out construction to companies and the military has been unable or unwilling to protect the workers and the US govt has difficultly conducting effective inspections of the construction. What we end up with is a very expensive, poorly built road that may or may not be completed after companies take many casulties and have finished some of the higher premium work items. We have actually "completed" most of the Ring Road and now the quality is so bad we need to rebuild it.

 

TOMMC

6:19 PM ET

February 24, 2009

Build a Toll Road

I think it would have to be a Toll Road to work. Give each Tribe along the road a Toll to operate so they would have a vested interest in keeping that part of the road functioning. Then, if someone tried to destroy the road it would be taking money out of their hands and they would find the person (much quicker than the U.S.) and punish them (much more severely than the U.S.). We could also subsidize the toll. For every truck that got through we could give the toll operators $20 each. So, they would have the toll money and the subsidy. This would also build trust and positive interaction between the U.S. and the tribal leaders which might yield mutually beneficial intelligence sharing, etc.

 

IDMAJ

8:33 AM ET

February 25, 2009

Great Idea

I think this is a great idea... it fosters ownership, supports economic development as well as integrating isolated areas of Afghanistan. The primary difficulty will be convinincing the tribes that the increased interaction between tribalgroups and the outside is not a threat to them. Money is generally not the primary motivator for most of the population in Afghanistan and Pakistan, otherwise we would have shelled out the ransom for UBL many years ago.

The key is to find what the tribes do value; A solar power generator for a remote village may be just as important as a monthly toll.

A potential negative second order effect for the toll concept would be intra-tribe conflict to comtrol more sections of the road in order to increase their revenue or influence.

 

TOMMC

6:54 PM ET

February 24, 2009

Winning

A number of people commented on winning in Afghanistan. If we accomplished one goal only I think we could win in Afghanistan: A goal that 95% of the female population was able to read and write by 2019. If we concentrated on that one goal I think everything else would fall into place and we could leave as victors. Just my opinion.

 

IDMAJ

8:26 AM ET

February 25, 2009

One of the Taleban's greatest

One of the Taleban's greatest recruiting themes is that western forces are in Afghanistan to change the Afghan culture and impose our own values. While I agree that education is a fundamental requirement to building a reliable civil service and thus effective governance in Afghanistan, you must take into account the second and third order effects of this action.

Increasing the literacy rate for females in Afghanistan would fundamentally subvert the tribal and other cultural systems that make up the sub-national power base for all governance in Afghanistan. This power shift away from the traditional system would be significantly more disruptive than what we did in Iraq by removing the Sunni base of power and enabling the Shia.

Some form of accomodation must be developed where we can increase literacy rates across the board while at the same time maintaining the tribal functions that have been running Afghanistan for hundreds of years.

 

TOMMC

1:19 AM ET

February 27, 2009

Change happens at the Speed of Trust

It's possible that my idea about increasing female literacy might be too pie in the sky. Anything would do though: Free shoes to all the kids in Afghanistan, free baby blankets, etc. Everything would have to be no strings attached and give these people complete psychological freedom to chose to accept or refuse. Anyways, they are all just tactics. The strategy would be: Convince the people of Afghanistan that the U.S. cares about their children. That strategy flows out of the timeless and inargurably Correct Principle that most parents on earth want the best for their kids. This is true even if their conditions and circumstances limit their abilities in this regard. As Stephen Covey has said "Change happens at the speed of Trust." For anyone interested in communications for situations like this I would recommend checking out the Indian Talking Stick method Covey describes in the 8th Habit.

 

T. GREER

1:19 PM ET

February 25, 2009

Reply to Fnord...

I agree that we missed the window of opportunity back in '04, but I do not think the situation is hopeless now. Let me try to address your concerned bit-by-bit:

"The question becomes: Who gets this money, communication and to take part of the "progress"? And who does it piss off?"

Are you referring to road construction money, or the predicted increase in revenue that accompanies commerce?

"A lot of Afghanistan can best be described as a multi-layered null-sum game, how does the forced introduction of a centralized (and deeply deeply deeply corrupt) state affect this game? Does it piss off more folks than it brings to the table?

I think it is key that any road-build efforts be integrated within Afghanistan's existing communal system. Simply throwing asphalt on the land is not acceptable. The way I envision it, something not unlike a road-only National Solidarity Program (or perhaps a special part of the NSP that focuses on road construction)would be put in place. Local leaders would help plan routes and the community would provide the labor. As a previous commentator brought up, the introduction of a toll (whose revenue goes directly to the community and it needs, not the central government) would make most all members of any given community shareholders in the road's success.

Now I realize that this portrait I have painted is overly simplistic, but for the purpose of this format, the point should stand. By giving community and tribal leaders control over road placement, using local laborers for construction, sending the revenue of toll taxes back to the community, and allowing the widespread adoption of inter-tribe commerce, will force many more to the table than it will send away.

"ALso, this implies a functioning state with judicial legitimacy, which is currently slipping away before our very eyes."

Which is why these roads are necessary. As previously stated, the roads provide Afghanis with a practical reason to trust and support the government. If legitimacy is the issue, there are few better ways to provide it.

 

FNORD

10:33 AM ET

February 27, 2009

again, good points, but..

Sir, good points. My argument is basically that the individuals empowered by the western occupation (wich is what it is, lets face it) of Afghanistan are some of the worst scumbags in human history. And since that is the matrix we have chosen to filter our aid through, most of efforts will only serve to strengthen the bad tendencies incountry. Until we have a serious effort at building a civil society inside Afghan instead of the feudal system existing now, roads will only accentuate already existing conflicts in many parts of the country. The strong will get stronger, unless we take a radical turn in our pattern of managing the colony.

Im not saying its undoable. But we need to understand the local consequences of our actions, and our allies related actions and the repercussions of those again before we commit.

 

ANON_ANON

4:19 PM ET

February 25, 2009

Make it more secure - for whom, and how?

Isn't COIN - at least, the contemporary American/Kilcullen version - supposed to be population-centric? Doesn't having static positions to defend differ from this goal *substantially*? How great would the economic benefit be, especially compared to other programs one could pursue? And speaking of tradeoffs, we have a finite number of troops to pursue population-centric coin with a population that is dispersed (my takeaway from your article on Wanat) - do we want to use those troops for road patrol, or for providing security by being in close proximity to the population?

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Thomas E. Ricks covered the U.S. military for the Washington Post from 2000 through 2008.

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